& after that several ~$700 festool sanders were ruined in a couple days by people sanding without putting sandpaper on them and just keept going at it until their thing was beautifully Velcro plastic sanded. Seriously not making this up, it’s like Murphy’s law. I caught one person & saved one.
The woodshop is not trying to block access to tools to make them better for elite users.
There are no ‘elite’ users in the space.
Tools are restricted for safety, liability, or fiduciary responsibility reasons.
In the instance of SYP, that falls under fiduciary responsibility: we can’t keep machines reasonably maintained and serviced if we allow SYP.
In the instance of the above mentioned tools that were locked up, that falls under either safety or fiduciary responsibility.
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This was not always the attitude:
Emphasis mine, the assumption that someone can even identify pine and knows that it is inferior to other woods is fundamentally rooted in the idea that people using wood to make something are “fine” wood workers or even aspire to be. From @Mrksls2 posts it is clear that he never even considered that wood species identification is not something they are concerned with much less even aware of.
Check cameras for the past month every single time I’ve used the bandsaw and realize you’re very very mistaken! I called you cause a saw stop cartridge popped, and a SAW blade which both are in the locked cabinet
You called him at 4am?
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They sell replacement pads so I highly doubt If the pad got destroyed we’d have to scrape the whole unit
I text him because he would normally come in around 4am and see me on my way out so i assumed he was up because that’s the time I’d normally see him at the space
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Then a lot of $ worth of stuff has been stolen most notable a massive 200-300$ bandsaw blade which I don’t think you could even hide in a full suit case yet alone walk out with it
Replacement bandsaw blades are consumables, albeit expensive ones, not fine woodworking tools nefariously hidden away.
I grow increasingly tired of your rabble rousing and I hope the woodshop leadership understand that, in my opinion, it would be a very bad idea to give you access to expensive consumables.
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I’ve bought my own so not a concern
so FYI literally that thread is an argument amongst people as to whether it’s a good idea or not
Get educated with resources and those who manage the machines, not random forum arguments you find on Google.
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I’ve read that from multiple sources but sure we’ll say it’s a bad idea, just curious what’d we used to have the can of Pam for then? If it gunks up woodworking tools doesn’t make sense to have it in the woodshop
Woodshop muffins. Obviously.
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Using Pam for woodworking tools is like using 10w40 for firearms.
I think one of those threads suggested using pam when resawing brownies. I’ll admit, I’ve made a few batches of brownies that could require a bandsaw to cut up.
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Only the pads were ruined at a still substantial cost of $40-$50 as near as I can recall. The education/ retraining/ awareness raising seems to have helped - we haven’t seen that kind of problem since.
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Butter flavored please?
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I’d also suggest that heavier lubricants have a greater potential to gather sawdust/chips in the machine.
The copy from Lumberjocks reminds me of listening to two people debate the merits of Vegan vs Carnivorous only lifestyles - If you look hard enough you can find a complimentary opinion.
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Chris - I respectfully must disagree.
March 4 - I had a series of conversations with you about the need to clean a bandsaw blade before immediately replacing it.
This was after finding a Laguna blade in the trash with a lot of sap and very sharp teeth. Your final text to me that day was you would begin to bring in all of your own blades, disks, belts, and other consumables.
March 6th - You messaged me at 4:00 AM because you were unable to find the blade you needed. At the end of the series of texts I reminded you that 4:00 AM I generally dedicated to examining my eyelids for pinholes. You agreed that it wouldn’t happen again.
Same morning - 6-6:30 AM In shop conversation - you reiterated that you would be bringing all of you own blades/bits/ belts, etc. I requested that you use Talk between say 9 PM and 8 AM unless it involved Fire, Flood, or Blood. You again agreed.
March 9 - Just after 9 PM Messaged me to replace the Laguna Bandsaw blade. Blade was found in the trash the next day and was still serviceable but apparently not to your standard. Blade needed to be cleaned.
March 13 - 1:49 AM - You messaged me with a video clip about the Laguna having an “unsafe and unfixable wobble” and that it had to be replaced. That blade was not found for examination.
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