More Blue Tape Crew Trolling of DMS

[mrjimmy]

Hello Makers,

This was brought to my attention this morning.

Keep in mind that this isn’t being posted on DMS channels it’s being posted on the public internet. It’s being posted to the public with comments turned off, and not sent to the membership in the attempt to discredit DMS.

Mark R. Havens posted on LinkedIn

In just the past 7 days the board and it’s officers have done the following for DMS:

• Negotiated with the landlord for repair and upgrade of our AC systems
• Procured server room and blacksmithing AC
• Secured estimates for the Ceramics/Glass/Jewelry ventilation
• Processed all of our monthly bills for operations
• Assisted members with technical difficulties related to bugs that emerged when we reopened
• Trained members on multiple machines
• Responded to 3d Fab requests and service Max has yet to address
• Assisted members with renewals
• Escorted a banned friend of the Blue Tape Crew (John Thummel) off of the premises when he was trespassing.
• Continued to monitor the security cameras to keep tabs on the Ricky Box situation.
• Procured supplies for Ceramics
• Assisted two new committee chairs in getting started as chair
• Published a guide to help new chairs with their jobs.

In those same 7 days The Blue Tape Crew has not had time to answer the 50 questions posted for them by the membership here on talk. Instead they have one person chat about it on a video they didn’t share with the membership. The committee chairs among them haven’t had time to help the membership with anything let alone requests within their committee. But they have had time to make two campaign videos to trash the makerspace that they aren’t even sharing to the entire membership of the space…

Here is their one contribution to the space during that time:

• The digital media area was cleaned and made ready for reopening.

Three Weeks after we actually reopened!

Here are their unanswered questions as of 7/4/2020 at 8:35 AM for reference.

BoD Candidate ?s: Joe King 202007

Joe King, @worldcloud Here are the questions collected on-line. Currently, 50 questions are posted. You can reference the #1 or copy the question before your answer. Feel free to answer others questions as you wish. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MQqveZ8zbyGh_bpyS1LVNohvlW5xJPcHzZTKOzYl8hk/edit?usp=sharing

BoD Candidate ?s: Mark Havens 202007

Mark Haven, @mrhavens Here are the questions collected on-line. Currently, 50 questions are posted. You can reference the #1 or copy the question before your answer. Feel free to answer others questions as you wish. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MQqveZ8zbyGh_bpyS1LVNohvlW5xJPcHzZTKOzYl8hk/edit?usp=sharing

BoD Candidate ?s: Max Kirkland

Max Kirkland, @maxk68 Here are the questions collected on-line. Currently, 50 questions are posted. You can reference the #1 or copy the question before your answer. Feel free to answer others questions as you wish. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MQqveZ8zbyGh_bpyS1LVNohvlW5xJPcHzZTKOzYl8hk/edit?usp=sharing

BoD Candidate ?s: Kevin Patel 202007

Kevin Patel, @Kevin Here are the questions collected on-line. Currently, 50 questions are posted. You can reference the #1 or copy the question before your answer. Feel free to answer others questions as you wish. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MQqveZ8zbyGh_bpyS1LVNohvlW5xJPcHzZTKOzYl8hk/edit?usp=sharing

It does not appear that Luke has a thread on talk for these questions, but he was on the call so he knows they exist.

That is your Blue Tape Crew, they have time to troll, they have time to help themselves, but time to help the space? Nah, bro, gotta get to Vodka Tuesday…

https://www.morebluetape.org/vodka/

I can’t stress enough how important it is for the long term viability of DMS to show up and vote against these candidates.

Please support ethics, community and honesty and vote for any candidate other than these 5.

Thanks, James

[merissa]

That’s very ironic to post a video on LinkedIn given this statement on their obnoxious website… do these people live in some kind of alternate reality or something?

And to pretend to care about being excellent to other members when they couldn’t even be excellent to their fellow “slate” candidate. Just awful.

Luke Andraski Statement of Intent BoD 2020 (Withdrawn July 4th)

I do hereby remove my statement of intent running for BoD. [02b3133010810bbfc2a209b2f93f57b7] I’m out. I am out of the election. I am out of these makerspace reindeer games. I am not party to morebluetape.org, nor have I ever been. The members of that combined ballot invited me to campaign with them and I ignored those solicitations for months. I was aiming for an independent platform because I didn’t want to be part of ANY us vs them bloc. That is not excellent. It is not conducive to the sp…

[collinrh]

It is even odder that Mark has this on his LinkedIn page.

And this on his resume/company website

Is DMS a million dollar company

[mdittenber]

Is this featuring on your LinkedIn profile or not? I’m confused.

[Popcorn]

@collinrh

Is DMS a million dollar company

That literally made me laugh out loud I don’t see any problem with people using a leadership opportunity at DMS on a resume or linked in or whatever, it does show your ability to work with people and lead, but this just stretches the truth way out of proportion. Can we even call ourselves a company?? More of an organization I would think

[Haley_Moore]

You should definitely put nonprofit work on your resume. Maybe don’t lie about it though?

Mark hasn’t been in DMS top-level leadership in nearly a decade. He’s never been on an elected Board of Directors.

[Raymond]

Let perspective employers call for a reference.

[agvet]

At what point do people who continually aim to undermine an organization get removed from that organization?

If he’s a ‘principal founder’ (from what I’ve read he’s not) then he should have no issues starting up another makerspace where the walls are lined with blue tape. They can call it the Blue Taperspace.

[mdittenber]

Not soon enough.

[mrjimmy]

@agvet

If he’s a ‘principal founder’ (from what I’ve read he’s not) then he should have no issues starting up another makerspace where the walls are lined with blue tape. They can call it the Blue Taperspace.

This may in fact be their end game, just do as much damage as they can before trying to do it somewhere else. They have in the past been associated with John Thummel, Kris Anderson and Joe Paden. These banned members, who per a few Facebook posts are planning a space in the Plano area.

It would explain why they are posting on YouTube and LinkedIn, and not to the membership. They may be trying to sink our reputation to aid their own recruiting as the “new, fun all booze all the time makerspace” when people start searching for things to do post covid-19.

Who knows, but I’m surprised they didn’t just stay at ACME since that’s where a few of them went during the covid closure.

[jswilson64]

I hope the Blue Taperspace has lotsa room and spare utilities for #vanlife out back.

[jrkriehn]

And easy access to a hospital.

[Raymond]

@jswilson64

I hope the Blue Taperspace has lotsa room and spare utilities for #vanlife out back.

Welcome to Blue Taperspace!

Here you can learn valuable skills and practice them using shared tools that you may not have at home. Join us to learn about exiting topics such as:

• Interpretive Graphing
• Gaslighting for Fun and Profit
• How to create your own 501c3
• Drafting unwanted business partners
• Electronics, including how to solder!

And many more!

We also have amenities such as free electricity on the back parking lot and 24 hour access to the Taperspace bathrooms for your #VanLife pleasure! Wait? You don’t have a #VanLife yet? We’ll help you build yours and assign you a space out back.

Learn more about the #Van Life including:

• How to dodge the police
• Ducking Code Enforcement
• Orange Window Sticker Removal Techniques
• Creative Financing through the Taperspace Membership Banking Center

[Scott_Blevins]

@mrjimmy

That is your Blue Tape Crew, they have time to troll, they have time to help themselves, but time to help the space? Nah, bro, gotta get to Vodka Tuesday…

[mblatz]

I was thinking they were going to be something like the blue man group (oops, is that name copyrighted?):

Except BTG would be all wrapped up in DMS provided blue tape (why not waste even moar of it at someone else’s expense?), and without the distinctive pleasure that members of the BMG are generally silent.

[Popcorn]

I actually saw 3 rolls of blue tape hanging out in the wild by the tools next to printmaking… Was this some kind of advertisement for the blue tape crew?? Vandalism of the space perhaps? Tempting us like a carrot on a stick?

[mblatz]

subtle campaign advertising? I wonder if their super PAC is behind it?

[Lordrook]

Not to detract from the importance of this thread, but Blue Man Group is a great show. I’ve seen it 3 times now and recommend it if you get the chance.

[Scott_Blevins]

Likewise, I fully support the ‘original’ Three Stooges, and throw in Schemp for good measure.

[Tburnside]

This is the problem with the makerspace. Why engage in this type of discourse from the leadership in this dialogue on Talk