Tweezer-style iron?

Do we have any tweezer-style soldering irons in the eLab? Something along these lines:
https://www.hakko.com/english/products/hakko_fx8804.html

I have some SMD work I need to do, and if I’m going to be entirely honest I don’t trust my heat gun skills – I worry about surrounding components, am never really happy with shielding (as either not enough is protected or it’s an incredible pain in the A when working on 0.5mm resistors all lined up right beside each other)… etc.

Maybe I need to just suck it up and have somebody walk me through best practices for using heat guns for SMD work… but those tweezer irons are pretty great as an alternative! And less time investment from me and certainly from others :slight_smile:

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I used to have them at an old job, but just the Weller tweezer module costs around $600.

If you don’t have a TON of rework to do, just chopstick it with two soldering irons.

Yeah, they certainly aren’t cheap. I’ve found a few off brands for more
reasonable prices, but it’s hard to get myself to trust off-brand stuff for
something as detail oriented as SMD work.

I did consider “chopsticking it” (gotta admit, I love the term!), but it
seems at least one station if not more tend to be taken so I’d feel pretty
bad about tying up two nice irons. And the trust thing comes up with
not-nice irons: I tried that once with my Hakko and your average $15 Radio
Shack firestarter, and trying to match temperatures to any reasonable
degree whatsoever had me pulling my hair out.
(edit: eww, responses from Gmail come out ugly by default. Lesson learned.)

OK, now I’m really going to cop to actually setting foot in the eLab maybe only once a year… Do we have solder paste in there? Yup, I have no idea. I figured I’d give my heat gun another shot for this project, and then I realized my paste is all dried up. Thought we might have some I could use in the 'space, but then again that stuff’s pretty expensive, so…

we have some solder paste but it is old too. may still be workable.

You can use your heat gun but you should shield the area that you don’t want affected with Kapton tape or foil.

Just use 2 soldering irons, one in each hand and tweeze the part between the 2 tips.

We have a metcal tweezer, and two pairs of tips. I know because I brought it in, along with a Metcal base, and a desoldering gun. There is a switch for the metcal power supply that selects between any two of those tools. Actually we also have an MX-500 supply that directly switches between two heating elements.

For some reason, the metcals tend to be used less than the (lesser) irons, and keeps getting moved around, so I’m not sure exactly where it is, but all that stuff should be in the electronics room.

Dave

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Because they aren’t shiny and new and made primarily from chinese plastic? :wink:

Because industrial design isn’t sexy like commercial products from Fry’s.

The person that donated the Metcal desoldering tool took it back. Plus most of the Metcal gear we have has issues.

Its really not hard, even with a normal iron to do this. Video shows how to do it with no magnifier and everything.

I did a similar AVR chip once with the help of @dave. Heavy flux pen, dab of solder on tip, and swipe across. It was shockingly easy, and some people claim easier than thru hole parts.

A small SMD clock crystal with a lead on center bottom was actually the holdup on the PCB I was populating. Not sure how I was supposed to do that without reflow…

PS> I think that’s me asking you if you need the scope. I have this unique condition where I really hate the way my recorded voice sounds. I am sure this condition is rare and very unique :laughing:

Again dude, done it before.

Pre-tin the contacts, flux the sucker out, and then if you can get any part of the pad or lead with the tip, should just reflow. I have tons of arduino ceramic oscs this way. Granted, I have a Hot Air as well now, but I found I can do it faster with an iron in many cases :blush:

Plus most of the Metcal gear we have has issues.

The Metcal on the (insert color here) bench works perfectly. As well or better than the toy-grade stations at the other benches.

Don’t leave it on continuously, roasting the tips, and it’ll work a lot better.

That would be the blue bench

You would think something so professional and industrial would not roast the tips. :wink:

The issues are more about inexperienced users. The toy irons help prevent that since they can auto-sleep.

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