Silicosis Concern in Ceramics Orientation

Good evening!

I am a new DMS member, and I’m currently reading through the online ceramics training course/orientation. In ~3 different sections regarding cleaning the studio, the training instructs members to sweep clay trimmings.

Dry clay, no matter the volume, should not be swept, dusted, sanded, etc. unless the person cleaning is wearing a mask or respirator. Repeated exposure to dry clay dust leads to silicosis. I advise removing the sweeping instruction from the training and noting the danger of inhaling dry clay particulates.

Best wishes,
Tex


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Unless you are trimming for hours, leaving your clay trimming to become bone dry on the floor, trampling it into a powder, and kicking it around, We expect member to sweep their clay trimming and throw it in the trash as soon as they finish.

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That makes sense! My concern is less about what is being swept (trimmings) and more about including sweeping as a recommended way to clean a ceramics studio.

Although I have only experienced two ceramic studios before this, both studios emphasized the importance of always using water while cleaning to neutralize dust. For the safety of members, I do strongly believe that the training should mention why masks/respirators should be used when working with dry clay particles so members understand the risk.

It isn’t likely for any member to get silicosis from their time working with ceramics at DMS, but teensy glass particles aren’t healthy for the lungs at any quantity. Teaching potters to avoid clay dust in the orientation can lead to a healthier environment for all ceramicists :smiley:

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(Note: I have just typed this all up and have once again found I am extremely wordy. You’ve just happened to hit on one of my ‘Strong Thoughts’ topics, so I am now subjecting you to my yapping. I am not a medical professional. I do support risk mitigation. I also love actual data!)

We absolutely should take precaution to keep our areas dust reduced and wet clean as much as possible. There is no truly “safe” amount of fine silica dust.

However, I went and snagged the work of others to help clarify what kind of risk we are actually talking about:

Reporting for 2017 found 20,000 cases of silicosis that year worldwide with 200 in the U.S. That includes many countries with lackluster (or no) protections and safe practice oversight. Occupations with the highest risk are those that cut/drill/grind materials like concrete, stone, sand and rock (mining, sandblasting, construction, ceramic production, countertop sanders, etc.). OSHA says about 2.3 million people in the U.S. alone are exposed to silica at work. How many of those 200 are studio potters? I don’t know, but statistically speaking, it’s likely zero, considering the level of exposure people have with large industrial operations in comparison.

So yeah, be safer than you technically need to be, I love that. But there was actually a really fabulous CDC study (NIOSH) done in 2007 with a studio in Cincinnati where they geared up four workers with detection equipment and had them go about two full workdays as usual. Including tossing around bags of dry clay and, the generally considered riskiest action, mixing glazes. Seven of the work days had zero exposure. There was a singular alert of detectable respirable silica (an employee dumping 50lb bags of dry clay into clay mixers), but it was at the allowable safe limit. A single ping, once. Neither the studio nor the glaze room had detectable issues. It all has to do with the very tiny particle size necessary to cause silicosis. Many other studios have also brought in detectors to monitor their risk levels, over and over, no issue.

But while we are at it though, if you want something to be worried about, I have much more exciting ones for you! Decomposing metal oxides are…fun times. And have you ever found yourself yourself standing right next to the kiln when it is firing? Yeah, try to limit that action, even with the vent hoods down. Has a crusty old 1970’s potter passed you a bucket of a beautiful satiny blue glaze? I bet you a shiny quarter the secret ingredient is barium. Powdered spodumene causes near immediate lung irritation, that can’t be good.

All said and done, you aren’t wrong to be cautious and want to take care of your lungs, you’ve only got the one set. Good practices benefit everyone. I’ll still wear a respirator if doing “riskier” things, but I’m not going to leave the room if someone does a quick sweep up of trimmings. Carcinogens from all the barbecue I eat are probably a higher threat. :slight_smile:

This is my fear, not a broom.

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I think we can cover this by just clarifying that only the wet trimmings are subject to sweeping.
Any other cleaning of an area, generally, should be just a water bucket and mop/sponge.

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Well, sure, but I got to write a short essay that no one really wants to read and that was super fun for me. :slight_smile:

Now I have to sit around and wait another six months until someone asks if a batch of ‘flameware clay’ they bought online from a sketchy website is safe. Maybe I just really need to get into birdwatching, or trains.

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:rofl: lol, need our emoji reactions back.

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Hahahah maybe you could do a series of essays on the history of ceramics. I’d totally read them! It’s especially enjoyable if you can read them in the Chris Copper tone of voice. However, I did read your mini essay and found it super informative!

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I love that you found some studies; that is great practice! Your mini essay genuinely reminded me of how much I miss reading journal articles and the like. I gotta get on that again. If you ever do write about historical ceramics, let me know!

It is honestly comforting to know that ceramics dust is less of a medical concern than I believed! I think the main factor that gives me the heebie jeebies is that silica cannot be removed from your body- it just accumulates in there. Nonetheless, I do think it is a good idea to introduce beginners to the idea that ceramic dust can be dangerous so they know why they should wear masks if they ever happen to be in a dusty situation, even if it is only one sentence in the online or in-person orientation.

I am definitely still a novice when it comes to ceramics, so I have not been handed a brilliant (but sketchy) glaze or had the opportunity to stand by a running kiln. I’m not trying to disprove your point by saying this, I am just trying to say that I have a lot to learn and experience in ceramics! I would love to learn more from y’all, whether that be the probability of silicosis or handcrafting pottery that doesn’t self-destruct on the wheel haha

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By the way, infodump away!!! I love hearing people explain their special interests. Who needs birdwatching (although that is also very fun, I can’t lie) when you have an audience to yap at? :laughing:

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I had done a quick google search on silicosis a while back. Glass had somebody who was leaving anonymous notes aabout silicosis.

Silicosis tyically takes 10-30 years of Industrial exposure to develop. That’s hanging around a dusty environment all day every working day for a minimum of 10 years. If one wants to be a professional potter, start taking precautions now.

Most of us can breathe a little dust without any ill effects. When I give a silicosis speech, I usually include that if a person already has some lung issues, they should consider wearing a dust mask to minimize their exposure.

Chris – I loved the info about actual exposure! After all, the silicosis estimate is probably more from mining operations, not ceramics studios. I mean, I’d probably still wear a mask if we were running a pug mill mixing dry clay.

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I’m so glad you wrote this up, you had way more sources than I do hahaha

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Glassworks has similar silicosis concerns but kiln dust is probably the worst thing we deal with. That and like Christy said above, glass/glaze has all sorts of heavy metals in it that are used as colorants.

The industrial concerns come from historical situations like the one I posted above. It’s considered one of the worst industrial accidents in American history.

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Ah but I read it, found it satisfying, and I’ve only ever set foot in ceramics while passing through!

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Dangit I miss you @cmcooper0 :kissing_heart:

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There are still ceramic glazes that contain lead out there. You probably won’t find new glazes with lead but I accidentally bought some as part of a huge lot of old glazes and promptly got rid of them. I have had a few people tell me it’s okay to use ceramic glazes with lead but there are plenty of glazes to use that don’t contain lead so I won’t do it. :slight_smile:

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Yeah, ceramics firing temperatures get much closer to the boiling point of lead than much of what else makers use lead for, but still below the boiling point of metallic lead. Though it still leaves questions around the vapor pressure of the various lead compounds used in the glazes at firing temperature.

But the real issue is just not wanting the reputation of using materials that might (no matter how little, or unlikely) leach lead or lead compounds.

Anecdotally, I had a life time professional artist teacher who had a life time professional artist friend who died of lung disease and he warned us that she didn’t work in an open space or use a respirator or mask when she did her work and Clay recycling. That is more than enough for me.

Always tell people to mop up but the mop buckets always look like really dry and I don’t know how to fix them.