Pyro Tooling, Supplies, and Notes

Just starting this as a reference thread for cool tips, techniques, and supplies for pyro that I’m finding in my fireworks research.

@Lampy

I was reading the Pyro Forum and saw these awesome cheap HDPE containers that would be great for mixing comps while also being a bit more reusable than the paper ice cream tubs.

Here is a link to the thread I found it in,

https://fireworking.com/content/pyro-automation-or-jr-channels-lloyd-three-pounds-whistle-mix-5-minutes

Also the thread talked about using a pneumatic paint shaker as an option for mixing comps that require mineral oil or other binders to be used without the need to spread them with a solvent of some kind. This might be a way to speed up our 1 hour whistle comp to 5 minute whistle comp. But, it adds the need of a compressor and this shaker to the items we have to have on site. Worth a read through.

Making our own Parallel Paper tubes.

Been doing a lot of reading on this and, I think this is by far that best manual roller design I’ve found.

Allows for easy changing of tube size, not power needed, and is simple. Win. Win. Win. in my book.What do you think?

Here is another video.

The first one was the one I was thinking of. I’m up for a build, sure Blake would assist.

I sent the guy a message to ask if he would share schematics or possibly sell us one.

This is one that I found a few years ago, look promising too. I like how the pinch roller squeegees the glue along. Although that would use a lot of glue, probably better to use wallpaper paste or diluted wood glue.

And industrial fireworks making machines. Check out the snappers making machine

Yeah, I was watching those same videos. I also found a supplier of machines out of India. They sell ones that would work for us at around $2500 plus $600 or so in shipping. But, you can buy a lot of tubes for that amount of money. That is 1326 3 pound rockets from hobby horse. If we make 50 an event, that would be nearly a 9 year supply with 3 events a year. So lets say life time supply, plus we wouldn’t have the extra cost of manufacturing time and materials. But, that would also be a cost of $119 per event on just tubes.

If we could build the tool to roll tubes for around $200 or $300, I could see this being worth while as we would likely pay it off quickly and bring the $119 per event to 2 hours work and $3 worth of materials. Especially, if HH becomes difficult to deal with. I don’t see us turning this into a competitor of HH, unless we want to bulk buy from New England and dole them out.

You guys going to start picking up free copier machines off of Craigslist to start scrapping them out for the rollers?

:slight_smile:

Maybe :wink:

But seriously, we are in need of 3 (1.5 in or larger diameter) rollers that are at least 3 foot wide. If anyone happens to have any they would part with. :slight_smile:

3 foot wide?

You aren’t going to find that in any copy machine on CL.

Sounds like you’ll need something special or you’ll have some fabrication to do with a metal lathe and a local chroming place.

We missed an opportunity on the large format printer. It had some nice rollers & mechs.

I’m betting we well have to make them. No big deal, just probably not free. I think creative arts is thinking of getting rid of the none working Vinyl cutter. It would be great if we could get that for parts. @uglyknees could we please :heart_eyes_cat:

Many vinyl cutters don’t have full width rollers, just pinch pairs near common vinyl widths.

I think the one we are considering tossing has a full width ruler.

We can probably use conveyor rollers like this

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-9-x-35-Steel-Tube-Gravity-Conveyor-Roller-Spring-Loaded-7-16-Hex-Shaft-New-/311659236516

Also new:
https://www.grainger.com/category/rollers/conveyors/material-handling/ecatalog/N-9qx#nav=%2Fcategory%2Frollers%2Fconveyors%2Fmaterial-handling%2Fecatalog%2FN-9qxZ1z08yw7

The vinyl cutter went to the children’s hospital :frowning: sorry

1.5" DOM tubing should work with fabrication. Ohh how I wish there were more time in the day to get more done.

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