No aerosol powered spray paint is to be used at dallas makerspace, inside or out

DMS General
#1

Nothing has been said about this but it was the first and final item of the BoD meeting categorized under Annoucements and Emergency items, but it reads:
NO AEROSOL POWERED SPRAY PAINT IS TO BE USED AT DALLAS MAKERSPACE, INSIDE OR OUT. CARROLLTON POLICE WILL FINE MEMBER IF CAUGHT.

I’ll be the first to say I’ll believe it when I see it. The yellow fire cabinet should be emptied. there are plenty of spray paint cans in there. there are cameras in the back and it should be easy to spot someone spray painting. If I see someone I’ll report it, but I seriously see much enforcement happening. Prove me wrong, please.

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Screw up at the powder coating booth
The Whole Spray Paint Thing (Again)
#2

Are brush on paint/varnish allowed?

#3

yes. anything air powered is ok. Just not aerosol (i.e. rattle cans).

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#4

Is it OK to leave those items on the donation shelf?

#5

I personally don’t care but spray paint is a fundamental item in a lot of projects at Makerspace. Can it really be a Makerspace if aerosols are banned? And yes I called it “Aerosols”. If paints are banned, all spray varnishes, finishes and even glues… anything that coats via a propellant must be included and that would also mean powder coating. All these items carry the same problems that paints do so they would have to be equally considered and banned. I understand the frustration that brought this about; the boneheaded spraying that causes damage to cars, bicycles and other people’s projects. In part I would argue that the lack of a spray booth is a problem and I don’t think the argument that OSHA has jurisdiction is valid. We are not a business. Again, I don’t care. I don’t do any spraying at the space anyway but I find it annoying that rules can be arbitrarily applied and some sprays will be more equal than other sprays. Now I’ve said my peace and I am done with this subject.

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#6

Just spay paint, then?

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#7

Hmmm. I wonder about the
MG Chemicals Super Shield Nickel Conductive Coating, 12 oz Aerosol Spray I use in my Copper plating class.

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#8

when I heard it, it was an emphatic No Aerosols. Air powered is ok.

#9

I apologize, I said I was done, but air powered is no different than aerosol. You cannot justify one and exempt the other. Both potentially allow an uncontrolled spray to travel to an unintended destination. Not sure who is arbitrarily making this rule but it is not consistent. ( for example powder coat… I’m sure you would be annoyed if your car suddenly had an orange tinge… and driving it for 20 minutes might loosen all that fine powder… or even a car wash, but eventually, some of it will enter your air vents and end up inside your car. Trust me, I know things. )( Hmmm I guess air powered spray painting is ok… Don;t park your car by the back door…)

#10

Well there is the detail that air powered methods don’t involve flammable gasses nor storing those under pressure in a metal can.

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#11

Cans of spray paint that have flammable propellant are what are banned by the City of Carrollton. This is not a rule created by DMS or the current DMS Board.

Adhesives or WD40 or brake cleaner are OK. It is an interesting law in terms of its vertical application.

Liquid paint or air brushes or compressed air paint sprayers are all still legal.

If you are the owner of any of the prohibited cans of spray paint please remove them from DMS.

That would exclude leaving them on the donation shelf as a way of “disposing” of them.

Throwing them in the dumpster is not a preferred disposal method either.

City of Dallas has disposal sites. I am not sure about other cities or towns.

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CA Monthly Audit for Consumables - June 2019
#12

One thing I was confused about, does this mean the city has declared this ban city wide? Like… People can’t spray paint in their yards? High school kids can’t use it for signs? Anything? It seems so odd to me

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#13

This is not accurate. Carrolton police are not the enforcers of this code. Code enforcement is.

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#14

Thanks. I was asking if it was spray paint specifically because I think the @Team_Laser uses Cermark frequently and it is rattle can aerosol something…? I kinda hope there is some leeway with this rule…not sure how City of ? is going to know if we are using Cermark inside?

#15

Could someone point to the ordinance involved with this action? My googlefu must be failing me. I don’t doubt it’s out there, I just can’t find it.

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#16

So Home Depot and Lowe’s can’t sell spray paint?

#17

Not all environmental and safety regulations extend to consumers. Businesses and industry (and apparently non-profit organizations) are handled differently than consumers.

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#18

@Team_ laser wishes to not have or cause issues with city officals or cause members a $2000 fine so for now cermark is included in the ban of aerosol paints.

#19

I understand there is a difference between joe citizen spray painting their camaro in the yard and an organization painting things. That doesn’t mean the rules aren’t written down somewhere. They may not be online, they may behind a paywall, etc, however I can assure you, if there is a fine associated, it’s written down.

Again, I’m not questioning the validity, just where one might find the written ordinance regarding this topic.

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#20

Please post the a copy of the city code - or the link where you read this.

I was on the Carrollton city website after seeing the notices on the doors at the Space the other day and could find no such code.

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