Machine Shop Layout Ideas

Because that’s how you’d do it, all at one shot? :confused:

Handling the initial problem would take some planning, but after that, you’d just convert it to solid waste a bit at a time.

I think he was thinking evaporation, which is the traditional method of get water content out of something. It also tends to remove some items from being considered toxic, such as the latex paint Zach mentioned.

In any case, which ever committee was responsible for this thing (Infrastructure?) should request funding from the board for disposal. It was a direct expenditure for the rental, so while Bryan may have been dealing with it in the past, it isn’t a machine shop problem.

Is no one else in favor of keeping the parts washer? It’s an awesome parts washer.

I’d be worried some of the washing would get relegated to sinks (or tables) within the facility.

People have been working on Bridgeport without problem since we located there near Hatcher’s door. The big advantage is all tools will be within arms reach.

If you look at the floor the ingress and egress paths are marked off - so they should have no problem going in or out.

We got the “new” lathe because the old one had center alignment issues and no high speed. But, if the machine shop committee members vote to keep it instead of selling it for other tools, then we’ll keep it.

Long term goals discussed at Machine Shop members’ meeting is for future acquisitions to include some smaller bench top Milling Machine, Lathe, Drill press some people can work on smaller projects. So there would be a second lathe, just not an engine lathe. Goal in reorganization is to have storage rack with all the lathe Chucks/Tools located next to it like the Bridgeport so they are all together so you don’t have to hunt for things.

Also, some of the open space will be taken up with additional heavy metal plate work benches that aren’t covered/buried with crap so there will be actual space to work on a project. Also, at the Machine Shop we meeting will be expanding into machining plastics. We’ll have a dedicated Band Saw and Table Saw with blades made for cutting plastics. There will also be a dedicated Inspection/Layout area (currently the surface plate is next to drill press with a plywood cover and is buried in stuff.)

So all of the open will start to be filled back up with different/additional tools, that work, and adding additional capabilities.

It will take some time ($$$$), but we’ll get there. Plus we will be having classes that over a much wider range of topics that have to do with: material types and characteristics - right material for your project; Fastener types and hole prep/tap & die; Inspection and Layout; How to use indexing heads; How to use Rotary Table; Fixturing & Tooling; Design considerations: indexing/datums, selecting tolerances, tolerance stack-up (e.g. mating hole patterns); Cutter & Drill types and Selection; Broaching (we have a small set of broaches) More knowledge about what goes into machining a project. Machinist Lite.

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I can’t seem to find the contract for the parts washer through a search in the wiki.

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David, these things all make sense. Thanks for explaining them.

There’s a Committee Meeting Thursday at 7pm … show up if your around. You are a legend Maker.

Yes. But…
I agree it’s not really Machine Shop’s purview. Bryan took it on in the past, and in my opinion, should be applauded for it. But I understand if Machine Shop 2.0 doesn’t want the hassle. Especially at $400/month without disposal (I, too, had understood monthly maintenance was part of that contract), I can understand if we let it go, but it IS awesome! I’d like to see Infrastructure take it on, like the air compressor and other sundries “used by all”, but viable options for maintenance must be found.

Here are some measurements, the bridgeport is about 4 feet from the shelves with all doors closed, about 3 feet from hatchers door when its open, and only 2 feet from shelf door when open

Another issue with current location is that the walkway between bridgeport and lathe is only about 3 feet with the bridgeport table centered, less than 2 feet if its all the way over. Currently there is 6 feet between HAAS and edge of bridgeport table


So it probably would be good to move it a foot closer to HAAS and a foot further from shelves, just takes a bit of time to get the gantry over it.

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I ran across a cheap drum lifter at northern tool and wanted to play with it, so I stacked all the barrels onto a pallet and moved them into pallet storage, the thought is that it would be good to find a way to dispose of them and then have a solution for small amounts of coolant disposal that aren’t just collect them in machine shop forever. I can put the barrels back in machine shop if needed

(The drum lifter is in machine shop shelves black bin with ratchet straps)

I love having facts and data to deal with! Thanks for taking measurements.

Now that there is room to move some tables around, need to think of a general layout for everything, how does this look to try out at first (not to scale):

Comparisons of current locations:

When we have only the one lathe, in which location will it be located?

Thanks for the ideas BUT DO NOT IMPLEMENT THEM on your own volition until the committee meets and decides on equipment, much of this is premature. We also have the issue of funding to overcome. Also the decision on whether too keep just one or both lathes. That impacts layout.

Why would we want pallets in the middle?

Tool boxes need to be near the machine they are used on. I.e. HAAS tool box next to HAAS. Where is the the other rolling tool box? Where is the pantograph? Where’s Arbor press? You seem to always omit these, you may not like them but people have expressed interest in them to me. If the committee decides to get rid them, fine - but not your decision, so please be honest in your proposals.

This also doesn’t account for other tools for working on plastics as discussed at committee meeting, e.g. a dedicated plastics band saw and dedicated plastics table saw. At the committee meeting there was general agreement machining was expanding into machining plastics.

That large blue aluminum plate will be converted into a work table - so no need for wood work table.

Cold cut saw has has roller feed table omitted and should be rotated 90 degrees to how you show drawing.

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We have a small metal shear somewhere. Is it accessible? I need to cut some 22ga sheet metal to make some LED mounts for a pinball project.

I have my own 12" metal brake to use to bend them.

Thanks!

How thick is material? How wide? There is a small one inside the Metal Shop, it’s painted gray.

12" x 24"

I need to cut it into 12" wide strips before cutting it into smaller segments to bend.

12" is probably the max. May be slightly less, it’ll be close.

Thanks. I’ll be up tomorrow night during open house.

Its a rough outline of what it could be shuffled around to right now. There are currently 4 pallets with machine shop items on them that need to be sorted through, would be better to put them in the middle temporarily than taking up general storage space.

A general approach question is if work tables should be in middle with only tools around perimeter or if we want pseudo walls around perimeter, or if it matters. Really only walkway between machine shop and fired arts is side that could be ‘walled’ or not