Interested in joining but

I read the thread on the firearms parts (What I am making does not in any way require an FFL or will be considered a firearm, its just a rail)

What is the official ruling on making furniture (Rails, stocks, or any other non FFL required part) in the space?

The current rules of the Dallas Makerspace are listed here…
https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Rules_and_Policies

The rules of the machine shop committee within the space can be more strict and should be listed here
https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Machine_Shop_Committee

So using a CTRL-F search for Firearms I found that in no way according to the rules posted on both of those pages that my rail would be a violation of those rules. Is this a correct understanding?

I want to be absolutely sure before I look at joining. I plan on attending this Thursday’s open house.

@Chris_Wischkowsky perhaps you can shed some light on the subject

sadly the answer is no. it is easier to say nothing than it is for them to see if what you are doing is legal or not. so they wont let you do any machining that is firearms related.

The organization has a rule about making NFA items and the firearm itself (like an AR lower). At this time there are no other rules related to firearms at the organization level. A committee might have a rule but those can come and go as the committee chairs come and go.

agreed and currently the last i heard is zero machining of firearms parts. i am waiting for that rule to change. i have things i want to make also.

Then the rules need to be updated. Currently based on the rules only NFA items are banned as far as I can tell.

Come to the Board Meeting and express your views …

There is currently a rule change that someone wants to make concerning the entire makerspace but it hasn’t been made yet. Also, the machine shop has committee meetings that the committee decides on what the rules for its area and equipment is.

https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Board_of_Directors_Meeting_20180521#Update_Rule_2.6_Firearms_to_close_loophole_.28Zach_Metzinger.29

Sorry to have missed that part, but thank you for posting it. With the exception being “Such as slings or optics” would an optic mount fall into this category?

I am not trying to dredge up an old topic, just want clarity before joining.

Sometimes the board just skips over topics it doesn’t want to consider. Other times they discuss it among the people there and vote. Sometimes they change the rule before voting. It is up to us to help them understand what is wanted and why,

Here is the event link

https://calendar.dallasmakerspace.org/events/view/5899

And it’s up to the Board to consider posterity of the organization.

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The committee meeting I believe the exact words from Nick were something to the effect of “As long as I am Committee chair there will be no machining of firearms or firearm parts” Something to that effect

Chris Wischkowsky, I believe is committee chair. It is up to the committee as a whole to decide the rules, however.

You are correct Chris is the chair.

I just wish if a rule is made that it updated on the wiki for all to see. :wink:

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Don’t forget double secret rules. I kid, but if a rule isn’t written officially anywhere, I would find it hard for the bod or the committee to enforce it.

I’m not going to be snide about it. I’m just going to propose a rule.

https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Board_of_Directors_Meeting_20180521#Update_Rule_9.3.6.1_Committee_Responsibilities_and_Rules_.28Mike_Cole_.22Draco.22.29

The problem is that not everyone understands exactly what is a restricted part. So, for instance, if we were to allow you to manufacture a bump stock … is that or is that not a restricted part? It’s not a frame/receiver …

It’s a trick question.

And my point is that it’s difficult for an all volunteer organization to write a rule that isn’t subject to interpretation by 1700 armchair lawyer members who are mostly not experts on the subject.

Have patience with us. I can’t predict the outcome, but we’re working on answering the question.

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