Hello makers,
This week we will be receiving bids from several general contractors to build out the plans that Rich Meyer provided. These bids will include:
Ventilation for the kilns
Ventilation for blacksmithing
Ventilation for science
Installing a mini split ac for the sever room
Construction of the blacksmithing walls
Completion of the wet classroom.
We are also getting proposals for the development of drawings for the final woodshop design and automotive which will allow us to finalize city approval and bid out that work as well.
This includes:
The door between warehouses
The woodshop wall
The automotive area
Power requirements/drop location for woodshop, laser, metal shop and automotive
Separate of that work we are having some maintenance done this week. This includes:
Fixing the Felder power issue
Providing a new power setup for the lathes
Setting up power for the induction forge in the blacksmithing area.
To do this power will be down briefly on Monday morning. We are working with the committee chairs to make sure that we minimize downtime.
There was a question yesterday about the new 480 for metal shop. It’s included in the gc bids, I just missed that in my notes.
Also per our conversation yesterday with the electrician we are using for the Felder repair we will be placing a drop for the induction forge in the new blacksmithing area. The timing on that is quicker than the bids since it’s a short run to empty spots in the box that’s right next to that area. We will keep everyone posted for that.
Regarding the Fiber Laser, who owns it? I would avoid spending money on infrastructure for it if not owned by DMS. Also it seems to have been dropped off without any recorded conversation with the BoD that I’m aware of.
I’m a big fan of laser anything myself but not sure about the plans for it.
That justification for blacksmithing is the same as metal (power already at the panel on that wall just need the drop a few feet away), but we’re not doing it because… ?
(EDIT for everyone else): the panel on that wall already has a slot for metal shop open, we just have the poke the outlet to the other side of the wall from the panel
The 480 is needed by 3 pieces of equipment, of which the laser is one. The others are the large TIG and the hand plasma. We’ve been without an operational hand plasma for members over a year now as the unit donated to replace the old one is going to keep popping breakers at 208
Perhaps I’m confused, I’m just going on the discussion with the electrician and with Joe. My understanding was you wanted the 480 hooked up, which is in the RFP bids. If there is another part that doesn’t require 480 then it’s probably in scope. I’m not an electrician and have basically zero knowledge about these details so if I’ve missed something it’s not intentional.
The existing live 480v circuit on the 102 panel, which has 60A available for us in metal, was what was discussed with the electrician last week and what we expected would be installed with the current work and that is what is required to get our shop back to operational for the hand plasma (as well as get the large TIG operating properly). That’s a simple punch through to said existing, live 480 panel that already has our service and drop an outlet in the welding bay on the opposite side of the wall (though we were going to put in a disconnect just for convenience since the breaker is on the other side of the wall)
The 480v that I talked with the electrician about getting hooked up when he visited with me last week was just a punch through to the existing 480v on the other side of the wall. There is a separate requirement for more 480 to run more than one machine at once, but that isn’t happening until the transformer in 104 is installed. The electrician was shown that in case you wanted them to do the work, but was discussed that likely that part would stay with the other bid.
That separate transformer is lower capacity, but enough that when both services are together we could run multiple pieces of equipment without interfering with each other or installing some very expensive transfer switches.
Thanks, yes he mentioned cutting through the wall so I assume he’s including that in his estimate. I’ll share the full details with you when the estimate comes in.
He’s already emailed us the parts list (partly because we have a pallet of conduit and other supplies and he was wondering if that was something we wanted to use up), and he already priced out his labour.
His last estimate isn’t current due to discussions that took place yesterday and today. The updated one is coming.
To be clear, I’ve got no intention of not doing the work, that I missed listing it above was an oversight because I lumped it in with the blacksmithing job. Due to the conditions of the current electrical and the contents of the bids that are already out the estimates have been in constant flux. We are expecting an updated estimate for this work and the bids should come in this week.