The VacuFormer is now operational

Thanks to funding from John Haskins (Blacksmithing Committee @jhaskins) new wiring and connections have been procured and installed on the VacuFormer. A big thanks to Lance Preston for getting the specialty parts needed and fixing wiring issues.

The VacuFormer can now be plugged into the 3 phase 30A power socket on the Pillar behind the parts washer. It also needs 120VAC for the air/hydraulic system and shop vac. It also needs shop air connected. Some time in the future, the 120VAC will be built into the machine so a separate connection will not be needed.

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Thanks for working on that!

Can someone work on writing up and laminating a basic instruction sheet to attach to it? Mentioning things like don’t leave it plugged in (leaving heating element going unsupervised would be bad)

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To be truly fully functional it still needs a more powerful vacuum system. Every pull during the last class session lacked definition because the suction of a shop vac cannot pull hard enough or quickly enough when the plastic is in a pliable state.

That being said, I’d kick in funds to procure one. It will be a valuable tool when complete.

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Would hooking up a $50 leaf blower/vacuum from harbor freight be better than a shopvac with a clogged filter?

http://www.harborfreight.com/3-in-1-electric-blower-vacuum-mulcher-62337.html

If you are trying to use a shop vac for the former, the filter should be removed.

If you can get the system well sealed, the pump and accumulator it came with is actually a really good soluton.

Yeah, it is functional, but needs tweaks.

I have that exact leaf blower, I use it to pick up grass clippings and leaves from my lawn. It’s even less powerful than a shop vac.

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I think the definition would be increased with a better vacuum bed also -
smaller holes would help. We can make one on the multicam.

BTW, if anyone is up at the space late, I can help you learn the machine.
Just bring a piece of appropriate sheet plastic cut down into 36"x36".

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I have an electric craftsman leaf blower / mulcher thing that we could try out, can anyone suggest a way to measure amount of vacuum it can generate? (it’s designed for cfm, possibly wouldn’t pull much of a vacuum) Would a clear tube filled with water instead of mercury work? Somehow get it connected to ac manifold gauges?

Yes it will work; however, if I remember correctly the standard 30 inches of mercury (standard atmo pressure) is equivalent to 30+ FEET of water

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Wasn’t there a huge vacuum pump/tank next to the vacuum former at one point? I think the ideal solution would be a vacuum accumulator/tank that would be “charged” using a pump. Then you’d do the pulls off of the tank, giving an instant and very strong vacuum.

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A simple water column could be made unless someone has some mercury which would allow it to be made a lot smaller. :grinning: Does anyone have one of the old vacuum manifold gauges used for tuning car/ carburetors? Some HVAC gauges can show vacuum (suction) although the scale is usually very small compared to the PSI side.

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I can get my hands on a mercury manometer, we have a coffee can full of them. Also I do have a micron gauge we could use just for testing. On a side note just a standard low pressure gauge for manifold set would get a ballpark as well.

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Also forgot to mention that a vacuum accumulator may be the best option. I think I have some 6" pipe at home we can use for one.

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I have a large (80 gal?) vertical (small footprint) tank I had originally intended as an accumulator tank for an old vacuum forming project. It will require fittings/adapters, but I would like to donate this to DMS.

I also have a 15amp industrial vacuum pump I would like to donate.

Assuming these would be useful to the DMS, who should I arrange this with?

or you could get better definition (for stuff like rc car shells) by using plastic that isnt 1/8 - 1/16 thick. you guys are putting the effort in the wrong parts of the system

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Coordinate with Science committee.

It seems you can coordinate with @jhaskins as the vacuformer is not currently sponsored by any community at DMS.

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Edit: corrected the suggestion presented.

Ummm, why?

Science doesn’t own the Vacuformer, and they didn’t pay for the recent electrical upgrades to it. Blacksmithing (John Haskins @jhaskins) paid for it and taught the last class for it.

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You are right @StanSimmons , he should coordinate with @jhaskins . I re-read that thread of “Do we need a Plastics committee?” where I miss-read “The Science Committee” Sponsoring the Vacuformer. Currently that piece of equipment not officially under any specific committee… Still.

^^…THERE is the WHY… ^^

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