I have seen this before, But do other people consider that this job wants 2 or more years of experience in a technology less that 2 years old. People make mistakes… i bet you the employment agency will find someone to fill this position. but is this impossible or can someone tell me how i am wrong?
It is likely that the job posting was written by a non-technical HR person who does not understand the technology.
Having said that, I was at the CTIA Cellular and Wireless trade show in Las Vegas in September 2016. At the show, I saw at least two companies demonstrating working prototypes of 5G systems. So, it is possible for someone to have 2+ years of experience working with 5G.
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Welcome to HR where deep down in their heart of hearts they believe that there’s some hidden reservoir of purple squirrels somewhere.
Cribbed the following from Urban Dictionary - follow the embedded links at your own risk!
For all practical purposes, there is no such thing as a “Purple Squirrel”; not in nature and not in the job market. It is a metaphor used by recruiters to identify the unrealistic expectations of a client company.
The happy exception is when a perfect candidate, with exactly the right qualifications and experience, is actually found for a job opening. That person would then be referred to as a “Purple Squirrel”.
But every human being is flawed, and even if the candidate has all the requirements, i.e. IS a Purple Squirrel, they might not even get a phone screening.
Thus, even one recruiter’s Purple Squirrel can be “just another disqualified candidate” to the client company.
In particular, recruiters or HR people use the term when they are talking to other recruiters or someone familiar with the recruiting industry.
The term has been in use for at least 10 years (there once was a magazine called “Purple Squirrel”). The term is in common, but not widespread use by recruiters as of 2009.
Such are the realities of the early twenty-first century job market. As more workers become unemployed, companies become more selective, and finding work becomes more difficult to the point where recruiters are expected to find “Purple Squirrels” for job openings, and companies move ever more slowly to fill positions.
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Purple squirrel… Your last comment is so true:
As more workers become unemployed, companies become more selective, and finding work becomes more difficult to the point where recruiters are expected to find “Purple Squirrels” for job openings, and companies move ever more slowly to fill positions
When I graduated with a BSEE, the economy was not so hot. I talked to an HR person one day for about 10 minutes. The conversation was positive until he asked me if I had used Windows 95. Windows 95 had just come out 3 weeks before… I told the HR person that I had not. However, I had experience with Windows 3.1, OS2, SunOS, and Linux and that I understood how operating systems worked.
Not good enough. The company HAD to have someone who had used Windows 95 because it was so different. I just was not qualified for the job. 
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UF had a strip about this…searching…
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now i am being called by a guy who can bearly speak english, Call came from 585-371-6226… I be it is someone from china using voice over ip to do job or employment recruiter. first we out source help now i think we are out sourcing employment agencies. number is listed as new york, but i don’t believe the person is calling from there.
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This what was replied to on my email.
" I am curious… are you calling me from inside the united states? If not the Lockheed Martin (employer) will have questions about my ability to obtain secret security clearance. as my (employment agency) would be in another state and possibly ask me to divulge information to person or company having allegiances to another state. I don’t know if by the nature of your position and where you calling from if this would present a problem of national allegiance. Would this bring into question the charge of treason against both me and you? the whole secret security clearance thing?
Respectfully
Thomas James Bowman"
I might be screwy but it is good to know i am not alone.
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hey employment agents… learn to code… and
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I think i used verbose option on compilation command line. Is this why we need to edit before i just slam a return carriage on to this. So is this bad communication or this is life looking for a job? I was trying to be subtle… but I think i lost it some where back there…
Companies have been known to create an opening meant for a specific insider, but due to requirements, it must be an “open listing,” so they word it in a way nobody else can possibly qualify.
Someone mentioned needing Windows 95 experience shortly after its public launch. As an employee of an Independent Software Vendor at the time, we had access to Windows 95, then known by its code name “Chicago,” years before its release. I went around telling a joke that “Chicago Hope” was a show about a major software company in the Pacific Northwest trying to ship the next major version of its flagship product; most people returned a blank stare…
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There are a lot of people outside the US claiming to represent US employers, but they are actually pitching candidates to recruiters in hopes of referral commissions.
They ask you to sign something that IMHO looks sketchy.
It happens to me a lot on LinkedIn. It gets tedious after awhile.
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I mean, hypothetically one could have plenty of experience in 3g and 4g and then 5g would be within a skillset range?
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yes pragmatically this stuff works out and there is nothing to sweat… I am a CS guy my profession has become an insult. so to be more specific.
I think we all say dumb things. I tend to think that it is worse when those dumb things are on a job listing and i am contracted to take those word serious. I kind of feel like being interviewed by the joker… So what is this half pool stick for?? no thank you… but thank you for the interview.
If you want to talk about biden then ok. I am more insulted that the subject of my college degree is now thrown around as an insult.
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I am more frustrated with employment agents who can not build things… placing human relationships and human law above the skillsets to build, then telling me if that does not justify their soft decision in the interview they will end with suggesting or telling me to work harder and get more skills. I have heard hell is other people and do want to be hell for people at makerspace. again i am a CS major… and now pretty much the shame of my family. more like this…
@ceramicCAP i don’t know you, so I don’t know if this is sarcasm or genuine anger, or both.
If it’s the second, let me remind you that Eleanor Roosevelt said nobody can make you feel inferior without your consent.
There are literally millions of people who wish they had your skills.
There are almost as many who wish they had your job.
The world is a big place. I get connection requests every day on LinkedIn from people in India asking if I have dev work for them (I don’t).
If you ever need a different perspective on your CS degree, come talk to me. I think you’re still every bit as awesome as you were before this meme started.
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Grammar Nazi says, “It should be, ‘Am I seeing this correctly?’”
Our contracts are defined and redefined… You probably are calling me a grammar Nazi, is this correct? Sorry for the posting two things are happening. one is an pretty much impossible definition on an job description. the second is while i am type for this thread, some person solicited me for a job i did not apply to… The second guy just calls me out of the blue. This unsolicited employment agent who poorly speaks English calls and is looking to have authority over me. I am not prosecuting anyone. I am not accusing anyone, but their actions and their words speak for themselves. They have not done any actions the benefit me and they want to get paid for a referral that in all likely hood they will not get. They will expect money for their words. Now if i misspoke while working on the job i will get shamed and insulted.
But what i can only venture to guess is that David A Tucker find both my assumption to be wrong. Is this correct?
First one is the impossible definition that is added to a grocery list of skills to be a legitimate way of making a job posting. I can understand this if that is your opinion. Now second assumption that i am getting from David a Tucker, is that i should not be angry with person that calls me out of the blue. I don’t know why… I would ask if i am employed, If we agree to do a job usually based off a job offer , then am i legally bound? Is this not legalism. If contracts are not legally binding then i don’t know what is. Now as of “grammar nazi”, you are probably able to see why i am confused about legalism… but if you suggesting i am a Nazi, then i would say “i don’t believe in socialism.” I look at Venzula and the problems that created Nazi Germany, the brown shirts and Nazis themselves… i look at the events of history and i personally do not see socialism as viable solution. just to make sure your talking about legalism right? To restate, If we are talking about contracts my bad i thought legalism was necessary. When being employed I have had employers welch on their side of the contract, but that i would better that have no emotional response.
As of it should be, people that write law … write down a "bunch of should be"s. Further that no one at makerspace is saying i am writing down law, but that my reference to law are incorrect. There is no one at makerspace that would follow a rule i would make.
Now if you believe Habitat for Humanity is welfare and socialism… i would remind people their are socialist that work in habitat for humanity but it structured as capitalist charity sponsored and influenced by Jimmy carter and yes the leftist funding is driving habitat for humanity more and more towards welfare. I am looking for a number of more capitalistic charities where my labors will not be used to spin people one way or another in politics and yet lift them up out of poverty much as i would like my self lift up. Sadly enough i have yet to find this.
Is this correct or maybe just you find this thread ill constructed and wish me to stop posting?
IBM did this for me. I was already on a project with them (as a contractor for their client) and they created a listing requiring experience doing everything I was doing, down to minute details. I thought it was pretty funny and completely obvious. But the bean counters and lawyers make them do it.
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This is anger and sarcasm for insult to my industry. i went to community college and then to state university and my degree was not given to me. I had to work a dinners while going to college. I would suggest that Eleanor Roosevelt would make exception to people like Epstein who did not ask for consent for women he raped and demeaned… under age as it was… I think Eleanor Roosevelt would make exception men demean by the process of the draft. Men subject to the draft would be sent to certain death in war or to prison for failing to comply with the law. Both of these thing demean and degrade the person. My understanding of Eleanor Roosevelt words where given people are following the law then the words said by a fellow citizen can not degrade you. That we constructed the law so that people will do no harm unto each other. My claim is that two actions above are slightly or totally illegal. You can not legally demand me to do something that can not be done (that is not physically possible). These are proposed contracts this is proposed legalism. and it is proposed legalism in very bad form. The second thing i think is illegal is unsolicited secure security Clarence level job offers by someone the looks to be living in another country while i am typing the subject about this first thread. All while i am unemployed.
It is my understanding that you, Holiday think the action above are legal. and thus my opinion is mooted and ill informed. Is this correct? If so i shall consider for i came not to hear my own opinion but for the review of others, and thought i might wish the opinions where more sugar coated… it is probably for the best i hear them.
Holliday, Your working off the assumption i am employed. This is the thread topic for job listings… Holliday your assumption is incorrect… i am unemployed.
So a bunch of people are probably going to jump on this thread and prove the internet is for scorn. for some dumb reason I keep operating under the naive idea that i should state objective facts about reality and request help. This is my own problem and i should repress my own desire to find wisdom and help. The facts are people struggle and there are only personal answers to solve some of life’s tougher questions. I will just not ask next time. Out of sight out of mind.