Hydro thermo siphon - Help me

Thermosiphoning - STRUCTURES AS POTENTIAL ENERGY.
Raise water up using existing tech , solar water heaters ,
dropping the water , activating an electric generator , hydro generators.
then raising it again …
Example -
Windmill poll will be fitted with simple passive evacuated tube.
all around the base , placed vertically.
so the wind mills has a generator for wind,and one more generator at the bottom,
to capture the hydro thermo siphon.
The mill would produce a lot more overall, during the day. on existing infrastructure.

on a smaller scale we could provide a working attachment to an
existing solar water heater system.
Inserting the right generator at the right spot.
letting the system pump the water / weight energy all day ,
still maintaining the solar water heater intended use .

Small devices could be made to electrify
gravity sourced generators , lights ,phones…
City water towers , already designed to hold a body of water.
could also be used to raise water and drop it ,all day.
Parking lots street lights, don’t need to sit idle all day.

We could do proof of concept , calculate loads …
They even got top of pipe fittings that increase downfall,
siphonic roof drain .
lucid energy makes inline hydro generators …
All is here, we just got put it together …

we could ,any suggestions ?
best wishs ,jp

Sounds like perpetual motion - the energy used to run the pump to raise the water to let it drop to run a generator can’t be more than the original input. Even being equal would be an amazing feat. What am I missing?
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No pump involved. Water makes its way to the top by evaporation powered by sunlight. Needs a very large structure to be useful, but definitely workable.

A neat concept along the same lines: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_updraft_tower

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This sounds like a variation on the theme of a swamp cooler

I don’t believe D/FW has a dry enough climate to make a device like this practical.

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the energy that raises the water comes from the sun, i think thats somewhat free .
have u seen evacuated tube or solar baker heater, very efficient
lucid energy got inline hydro generators ,everything is out there ,we just got put it together
and work the kinks
not dependent on orientation as much , cuase of the tubes …
if u disconnected the T&P value the thing will steam all day …
it aint perpetual unless u can rotate it at earth speed …
load calculations need to be done ,but the thing works ,i did a baby model with black irrigation hose and it pulled water to my roof …
lets build one and do this …

we could use small structures too…
look at ur municipal water tower ,see the base / poll that holds it
now imagine its covered all around with vertical evacuated tubes
they raise the water
imagine ur small time shopping strip , the entire back wall covered in vertical evac tubes
and the fall goes in a pipe with inline hydro generator ,lucid energy …or we could figure something out …
its all here ,lets built it ,work the kinks out ,do load calculations …and make the world a better place ,a system on ur car ,yes it operates while u drive …
a mini hydro thermo siphon one to charge ur phone ?

they even got pipe top fitting that increase down flow …

“Evacuated” and “Flow” are not compatible.

You need energy to evacuate. ( I interpret that as reduce pressure, BTW. )

Heating does not generally do that. Can’t recall ever working with a vacuum pump that uses heat for anything other than cleaning. LN2 - yeah. That works. Does not come from sunlight though.

You want clean efficient power in quantities that support modern civilization, start building the next gen of nuclear power stations.

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nuclear the way we do is silly …its an abomination to human ingenuity,
far from clean …i think
“Evacuated” and “Flow” are not compatible…arnt they the same ? think -
Evacuated tube is real simple stuff dude ,most houses in Asia got a evacuated solar heater on they roof or yard ,its 300 $ on eBay for the whole system…
its quite simple and inexpensive …
humans are ok they got more they need ,and if they need more ,more will b provided.
i just wana maximize efficiency ,there is beauty in that …

Thermosiphoning - STRUCTURES AS POTENTIAL ENERGY.
Raise water up using existing tech , solar water heaters ,
dropping the water , activating an electric generator , hydro generators.
then raising it again …
Example -
Windmill poll will be fitted with simple passive evacuated tube.
all around the base , placed vertically.
so the wind mills has a generator for wind,
and one more generator at the bottom,
to capture the hydro thermo siphon.
The mill would produce a lot more overall, during the day.
on existing infrastructure.

on a smaller scale we could provide a working attachment to an
existing solar water heater system.
Inserting the right generator at the right spot.
letting the system pump the water / weight energy all day ,
still maintaining the solar water heater intended use .

Small devices could be made to electrify
gravity sourced generators , lights ,phones…
City water towers , already designed to hold a body of water.
could also be used to raise water and drop it ,all day.
Parking lots street lights, don’t need to sit idle all day.

We could do proof of concept , calculate loads …
They even got top of pipe fittings that increase downfall,
siphonic roof drain .
lucid energy makes inline hydro generators …
All is here, we just got put it together …

we could ,any suggestions ?
best wishs ,jp