#HowToSpotFakeNews

I would call this misleading, like the one about how many school shootings there have
been this year The Wash Post debunked that one

I will admit that I am somewhat on the fence and I have been trying to get clear info so I can have an educated opinion
My fence is I have No issue with shotgun and hunting type rifles, I see a need for for
some folks to have handguns, I am having issues with folks needing a weaon
designed for the military. That said, I m not sure that a total ban on them would make a
huge difference in gun deaths

I do feel that some controls are needed, but they need to common sense ones and gun
owners and gun hobbyists have to take a part is developing them

I am trying to have a non emotional discussion on my FB profile, Trying is the right word
since a few keep repeating the talking points of the NRA

I dont want to get into this discussion here, it is too divisive If you want o
participate, find me on FB same name and add your facts Folks will play Devils
advocate A lot of my friends do a lot of debunking and that involves questioning
beliefs and yes we do tend to be more liberal

BTW on sensationalism That is a factor in all repoorting and always has been
"Dog bites man is not news, Man bites Dog is

Also if yall want some pointers on avoiding fake news and even misleading news I can offer
some soog articles o it

This is what’s wrong with this particular click bait.
People who don’t know any better will never know until they experience it for themselves.
It is this type of manipulation that contributes to the controversy as well as non resolution of many issues.
It’s a cop out for the author, and very sensationalist for the media site to put a well hidden disclaimer(to the uninformed) at the end the way he did. Without disclosing that the “paperwork” is the background check that will determine if he can or can not purchase a firearm the story is deceitful, Yet it wants to come off as authoritative or credible on the subject matter(which it is neither only to those who know).
He chose to highlight things that had no bearing on whether or not he would be able to purchase a firearm and intentionally leaves out one of the most important detail regarding firearms purchases.

Any time a media outlet does this it should be lumped together in the same category as junk mail(only much less useful).

It may be an unknown site to some or many, but a lie repeated enough times eventually becomes the truth for some/many people(as cliche as it may sound).
Add the general disinformation being spread by more popular media sites regarding “fully automatic weapons” being easy to acquire(there is nothing easy about making enough cash to get to the stature wherein you can buy automatic weapons), that’s a whole bag of lies piled on top of each other being accepted as the truth by the uninformed.

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Definitions, like language, vary over time. In 2018, the term “fakenews” most often refers to stories which have been manipulated to conform to a preset ideology - otherwise known as propaganda. It’s not that there are no facts present - its that there are also omissions and “style” (adjectives and adverbs) applied which push readers to a conclusion about the facts, rather than an unbiased reporting thereof (journalism).

With respect to the story in the OP, the title exclaims: “I was able to buy an AR-15 in five minutes”. In fact, he never filled out and submitted the paperwork at all, and thus did not try to buy the gun. It’s exactly the same as being underage, going into a grocery store, putting a six-pack in your cart and claiming “I’m underage, and I was able to buy beer at the grocery store”.

Childish and silly article.

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Learn to recognize clickbait post of all types

It always takes resources to run a media outlet, but the factor has been what kind of resources?

Pre-internet and pre-desktop publishing the resource requirements to achieve any kind of reach were significant barriers to entry. Enormous quantities of money, capital equipment, organizational expertise, and oftentimes regulatory compliance were required - all necessitating considerable operating revenue to sustain. This put tremendous power into the hands of media outlets and relatively little into the hands of the audience.

Pre-internet, there were a few things going on that reduced the cost of entry. Desktop publishing meant that you didn’t need a massive printing operation to produce content on a small scale, thus newsletters could reach small audiences. The airwaves loosened up slightly with more local TV stations, public-access TV, and low-power AM/FM stations. Cable TV broke the power of the “big 3” national networks and brought us more TV news options, including our now much-unloved 24-hours news cycle.

But the internet changed things. Over the course of less than a decade as the nation got online, the overhead required to operate a media outlet with global reach dropped almost to the theoretical minimum of just reporter wages. No printing operations, no TV studios, no transmitters, almost no regulatory compliance burdens, and ever-cheaper hosting/administrative burdens. As media outlets blossomed, audiences fragmented. Sure, hosting costs a bit more than rock-bottom $7.77/mo powweb price for a site with any serious volume of traffic and you need some smattering of tech/admin/sales/mgmt people around, but it’s stupid cheap now relative to pre-internet print and broadcast.

This is media hyperpluralism. This is my quip about how anyone with something on their mind and twenty bucks can reach a global audience.

Concurrent with the explosion of outlets, the audiences fragmented along numerous lines. Age, location, political ideology, subject interest, cultural aesthetics, profession, lifestyle, you name it - I’ve certainly not even covered all of the broad segments. With this fragmentation the power of the few players in the rarefied atmosphere of the de facto old media oligarchy rapidly diminished. No longer were there sufficiently few players as to dictate standards to the audience. In order to win or retain audience, media players now have to cater to what the audience wants lest they simply find another channel or website. Some outlets are amazingly frank about this - clickbait headlines, senationalized coverage, and endless series of articles about gossip and other superficial nonsense are all backed up by data: viewers, listeners, clicks, comments, referral links, shares, etc.

This is the audience tail wagging the media dog. This is us responding to things in contradiction to what we say we actually want. Local TV stations figured this out in the 1980s when on-the-scene eyewitness news started fixating on crime - it scared people but they tuned in much more reliably. Netflix learned this early on by comparing what they used to ask subscribers what they wanted to watch vs what they actually watched - the resulting elimination of that feature algorithmicly - and reliably - determined the usually mid- to low-brow fare people actually watch vs the aspirational material they would claim to want to watch. At a more visceral level, pornography producers know we’re broadly interested in subjects outside of our comfort levels that don’t line up with mainstream sexual mores. This is an aspect of human nature in America playing itself out at a pace and to a degree of precision not possible before the internet.

Some outlets might accept a smaller market share abiding by Standards™, but the audiences to be hand - and money to be made - are in delivering what people actually respond to.

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How Real Is Fake News? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQcCIzjz9_s

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This is not about a false story, it does involve copyright infringement

Some years ago there was a small, locally circulated magazine in New England
called Cook s Source It had been published for several years.
Everything was fine for the lady that published it, until she republished a recipe for a
medieval apple tart recipe from the internet page of a lady in the the SCA It was credited to
her but it was altered and she was not asked or notified about it. One of her friends happened
to pick up a copy of the magazine and he emailed the lady to congratulate her on getting her article
published That was the first she knew of it, she objected to the editing She contacted the woman that published it and asked for a small donation to a college, I believe it was around $75. The woman told here that shed didnt owe her anything and that she should be paid for the editing and publication of it

That was when the story hit the internet, first thru SCA groups, then from there it went viral and even Neal Gaimen got involved, Many folks got to looking at back issues of the magazine and the woman
had stolen articles from many others including Disney, Paula Dean, and even Martha Stewart and
others They were notified, Her advertisers were notified, I helped in doing that
My the next morning the New York Time carried that story

I saw the power of the internet to spread a story that afternoon

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Pretty informative. Thanks for the link.

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He also created a “Short Barrelled Rifle”, which without a tax stamp is illegal.

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What is the difference between this Ruger Mini-14:

and this Colt AR-15?

If you ask someone that knows about firearms, they will tell you “Not much.” They both use the same ammo, both are semi auto, both are federally legal. Both have detachable magazines in factory-made 5, 10, 20 and 30 round capacities along with numerous aftermarket options.

If you ask someone that has only been informed about guns by the mainstream media, they will tell you that the bottom one is a very dangerous “assault rifle.”

The truth is that there is no real difference between the two. One is designed for the civilian market and comes standard with a wood stock. The other is a civilian version of a military design that comes standard with a polymer stock. The only functional difference between the two is the “pistol grip” of the AR-15, which doesn’t in any way make it more deadly.

Stupid stuff like the “Assault Weapons Ban” of 1994 which outlawed an entire class of rifles for purely cosmetic things like bayonet lugs, folding stocks, pistol grips, flash hiders and barrels threaded for flash hiders, makes me not trust “common sense” measures put forward by anti-gun forces.

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I am not a gun person, They have never really appealed to me, I dont like loud noices
I would never use caps with my toy guns as a kid

What about the kick on the 2 of them?
Why would a rancher friend that lived in rural Mon Who shoots and used guns to protect her cattle
from mountain lions and bears and coyotes say she would never use a n AR 15 fir a
predator

I want to learn more

I’ve shot both the mini-14 and several versions of the AR-15. The kick on both of them is very minimal, but the mini-14 is slightly harder. The .223 cartridge is on the low end of rifle cartridges, and even a bolt action rifle (the hardest kick type of action) in .223 has very little “kick”.

The AR-15 .223 cartridge would be fine for coyotes in most cases, maybe ok for a mountain lion, but would just piss off a grizzly bear. If I were in rural Montana on a ranch, I wouldn’t bother with an AR-15 either. I would be using a .308 or similar cartridge like 7.62×51mm NATO in a semi-auto rifle. 7.62x51mm is the standard for military battle rifles for long range and sure kills. I’ve hunted large game like elk and bear and would use nothing smaller that 7.62/.308 on them. I’ve hunted varmints like coyote and prairie dogs with 5.56/.223 to good effect, and even used .223 for east Texas white tail deer, but would never go up against a mountain lion or bear with one on purpose.

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Right tool for the task.

I have been told that the AR 15 is a great gun for hunting feral hogs
The large magazines? allow them to take ddown several hogs in a sounder

The AR-15 works pretty well against hogs, but larger hogs sometimes take two or three shots to kill them. A friend of mine uses an AR-15 chambered in .300 Blackout for better skull penetration on larger hogs. That gives him the lighter weight of the AR-15, but with a harder hitting cartridge.

Feral hog hunting is a blast. Feral hogs are unprotected, exotic, non-game animals in Texas. Therefore, they may be taken by any means or methods at any time of year. There are no seasons or bag limits, however a hunting license and landowner permission are required to hunt them. Other states have varying laws for feral hogs.

Hunting feral hogs with a rifle is a good way to have fun, but if you really want to clear an area of feral hogs, they must be trapped, and you must trap the entire sounder… otherwise you just educate the ones that escape and they will be MUCH harder to catch the next time. Effective trapping of feral hogs is a long term, fairly expensive project best left to any one of about 1/2 dozen companies in the north Texas and Oklahoma area. There are a number of good Youtube videos on effective trapping of entire sounders.

Also, feral hogs can be quite tasty, but the meat on older animals really needs to be brined for several days for best results.

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One of the funniest stories I have read on line was of a New York City hunting an fishing
reporter coming to Tx to hunt hogs

I think it was titled "A Jew boy from the Bronx goes hot hunting in the south

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As more is uncovered…
Is it the gun or is it the scapegoat to the failings of many in a chain of events…

‘Not the first time he’s put a gun on someone’s head’: Chilling Nikolas Cruz 911 call - USA TODAY

Of course, no one wants to ne the deputy right now…

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I’m a frequent Hog hunter. I would advise against using 5.56. You can kill a pig with a .22LR with perfect shot placement, but it takes something with more mass to deal with shots off the backbone. I use a custom AR15 in 6.8SPC with custom loaded ammo, with great results, and highly recommend at least 6.5 caliber and 2500fps. You can do it with less, but if you’re not sitting in a protected blind, pissing off a big hog can be highly hazardous to your health.

.300 Blackout is a great round, but since it’s meant to be sub-sonic, and fired from a suppressed rifle, it is a pretty low-power round. Fine from a blind in a suppressed rifle, but without the protection of a blind, and the suppressor, I’d go bigger. I’ve seen blackout rounds bounce off a big hog’s shoulder blade. Big and fast!

Agree about .308 - one of our best and most versatile rounds. Not much in North America it can’t handle. I might go bigger for grizzly/brown bear and moose, but not much else.

Broward County Sheriff’s dept is widely known for its shenanigans. There have been books written about them…

I can tell you from personal experience that the Miami Airport Customs folks that I worked with in the '90s really hated dealing with the Sheriff’s dept., more than a few of them were convinced that the cartel’s had hooks in that bunch.

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