I agree if this applies to thievery, that’s just unacceptable.
Some things bother others that some just brush off, like not cleaning your woodchips off the router table, that bothers the hell out of me, but there is not a sign or verbiage saying to do so. LOL the freaking floor was spotless, but the table was left a mess, so that persons version of clean didn’t meet my standards.
I know I have pride in the space, but there are leeches that use, destroy and leave, leaving the prideful members to complain about it on these forums, which they will never read.
Despite advocating the need for signs to remind people to clean up after themselves several times in the past, I don’t think that is an example of where someone can’t be punished since ‘they didn’t know’. Common sense applies on both sides. If someone makes an attempt to clean up, but doesn’t meet the next persons standards then perhaps the next persons standards are too high.
But, frankly, I am getting particularly tired of arriving at the space to work on a project and finding that I would need to spend several hours getting the tool back up and running before I could start my project. For instance, I came in on Thanksgiving morning with the intention of cutting the replacement gear for the Colchester. What I found was that the Bridgeport was left with the head of the machine rotated in two axis (several hours for me to restore to proper condition) and the entire area covered in metal chips. Could I have bothered @bgangwere to complain and ask that he waste his time to identify the culprit? Yes, but I believe that would be an unfair burden on him. This is but one example of where I would have liked the ability to search the video and identify the person myself. After talking with them, I could have decided to either file a complaint or let the issue go as a learning exercise.
But even when I have identified that the same person has committed three pretty serious rules violations (that resulted in damage to our tools), the responsible chair admitted that they don’t like ‘conflict’ so nothing was done–the culprit wasn’t even talked to to explain that there actions were wrong and causing a problem.
Yeah, if you don’t have that power its a moot point.
A few machines we have require a proper cleanup, leaving woodchips all over the table as if you forgot to use the suction is a vile attempt at cleanup. If you take 30-40 mins to set the machine up take 30-40 mins to clean it up simple as that, but as soon as the job is done some folks are like sooo tired from staring at a machine cut for an hour they just halfass clean up and walk away. Just like your Bridgeport culprit, I’ve walked in and somebody left the bit in the router, in a mess.
So in a nutshell all we can do is show the board / chairs / directors what we are encountering and its up to them how they deal with folks tearing up the space. We can only give ideas and opinions and hope for the best.
