Do I look like your Maid? (and ensuing dumpster/trash discussion)

This is how you left it for me early Sunday morning.
https://goo.gl/photos/55dwcEXK8edowWaA9
https://goo.gl/photos/FTafAok8SM9AxqKP7
https://goo.gl/photos/7UbTdNBiG8jRfJfm8
https://goo.gl/photos/KFDMuhN9RA92jaLi6

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This is ridiculous. There needs to be repercussions for this inconsideration.

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As someone who is in the shop 4-5 days a week that’s clean.

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That trash can is ridiculous, and merits a negative response.

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@MikeD is correct,
This is often considered clean. Dust and push blocks on the table saw, not a big deal. Dust on Chop Saw also minor, because most likely this is the effect of multiple people leaving a much smaller mess.

But, I agree the tower of wood scrap in the trash can is terrible. It is hard to clean up and thus many refuse to. If you fill the scrap trash bin up, please dump it. I’m not sure of a another way to handle this, a larger bin would only exacerbate the issue. A smaller bin or no bin would probably lead to more disorder and a larger mess in the wood shop as a whole. I’m not a fan of dumping the current bin, because it is often heavier than I like to lift over my head, and I’m a BIG GUY 6’5" 280lbs. I couldn’t imagine it being a light task for any at the space.

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“the trouble with normal is it always gets worse” - Bruce Cockburn - 1981

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It’ll take multiple people to throw the crap off the top until it’s small enough to lift and dump, but until the big can is emptied we can’t throw out the little stuff.

Adding an additional pick up day for the big can outside needs to be looked into.

As the space grows in members it grows in trash; we need to grow logistically to meet the needs.

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I don’t dig this either. And having to spend money on a problem like this isn’t my favorite way to solve problems, but if this is going to be an issue something like this may help save your back. We use them in our shop.

It might help motivate people too. When it is easier to move?

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Given the number of times recently that the dumpster has been full to overflowing, we probably need to order another, or perhaps a larger dumpster.

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Hey…this is absolutely insane right.

But what kind of wood is this stuff typically?

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The problem with the chop saw is that everyone makes “just one cut” and they don’t think it’s worth cleaning up for “just one cut”. I can tell you that on more than one occasion I have spent 30 minutes or more vacuuming up a lot of “just one cut”.

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This is a valid point. We can improve our current situation by cutting and chopping our trash but that will only get us so far. At some point more trash collection is inevitable.

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I agree it is an issue,

But, it is minor compared to the trash can. As you said, you’ve spent time cleaning it and it took about a half hour maybe a bit more time of vacuuming. This is acceptable work load as any member could be expected to perform it. However, I would find it a much larger over reach to ask you to dump the scrap bucket. Not that you couldn’t, I’m sure you could dump it in 4 to 6 trips to the dumpster. Maybe in less trip as you constantly out perform my general expectation. :wink:

You hit the nail on the head here, trash collection needs to change. Either we hire someone to dump the can more often or we setup an easier way for all members to dump these heavy bins full of trash. Also, we need the trash company to empty or dumpster more often as it tends to run near 100% full too often currently.

An aided trash can dumper like this might be appropriate for our space at this point as it would allow all of us to dump trash with out the need to lift the can over your head. As woodshop is not the only area that suffer from Trash Can JENGA.

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Metalshop needs to build a giant fire pit and we can use it to dispose of wood.

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“Just one cut”…I can’t help getting a flashback to my childhood. My father would never have left sawdust on his equipment. He used a foxtail broom to tidy up. That equipment was a point of pride for him. Pride. We never had any money, so every tool was cherished. I can still hear his voice. He was always happiest when he was making something.

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Woodshop could fund building a fire pit. I don’t know what our neighbors or landlord would think about it though. And what’s that plan for ashes?

There is no excuse to leave ANY amount dust on ANY piece of equipment. I myself was is the woodshop over 12-15 hours everyday while installing the new ducting system along with many other helpers. If people are going to leave a mess and not respect the tools and space, I will do everything I can to make sure they know we are watching and their behavior is unacceptable.

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@PearceDunlap @MikeD no fire pit :slight_smile:

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https://dallasmakerspace.org/wiki/Board_of_Directors_Meeting_20161118#Begin_process_to_acquire_a_second_dumpster_.28Walter_Anderson.29

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I was thinking about pyrolysis to produce biochar /charcoal, producer gas, and tar.

I have a book with plans on it. Would be a fun welding product with an actual use and plenty of environmentally friendly applications.

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