Great. Now go say that to the dead proof (or their families) that this shouldn’t be taken lightly. Because it’s very preventable if people stop making light of it.
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The point I got from Russell’s post is that deaths per case are going to be overstated because those folks with mild cases won’t be tested.
Sure, I get it. There just aren’t enough tests to check everyone. And there will be many deaths, probably more than a normal flu season because the highly susceptible can’t get vaccinated.
Still, it skews the statistics when the mild cases aren’t recorded. I mean, right now the shut downs make some sense. But - are they going go on too long bbecause “tthey” are expecting more cases that have actually already occurred but not been tested?
As the saying goes, there are lies, damn lies, and statistics.
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As the saying goes, there are lies, damn lies, and statistics.
Very well said. Thank you 
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Statistics account for 37.291% of all lies or potential lies.
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I understand that you take this very seriously because you are one of the highly susceptible. And, the current cases show that not all of the highly susceptible realize that they are. But if the only way to prevent it is to shut down the economy, that doesn’t sound particularly reasonable. We’ll see how it goes.
Yes- I get it that we’re trying to keep the serious cases down so that there is a chance of not overwhelming the medical system.
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Listen to this please.
We can argue about numbers and statistics until we’re blue in the face but the results speak for themselves. Hospitals are overwhelmed in areas that have managed the spread of the virus poorly. The responses like social distancing (and closing the space) are to prevent the health care system from being overwhelmed. The goal is to social distance enough that hospitals can handle the load. New York state said they think they’ll need 37K intensive care beds and they have 5K. Thankfully that’s just one area and we can do better than that in other places - like Dallas.
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You know, I don’t give a shit about the economy. I am an adult U.S. citizen with a minimal house payment on a house I could pay off tomorrow, no car payments for almost 20 years and minimal other debt. I don’t give a damn about the economy because I have seen what’s coming for the entire 30 years of my adulthood and have saved and prepared for it. That is what responsible adults do.
I am tired of hearing that some percentage of us should just die so others can do whatever the hell they like as long as they get to eat a fatburger at a fast-food tomorrow.
I hope I live to see some of those people brought to account for their cavalier attitudes.
Buckle up because this is just getting started.
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I’d guess she doesn’t have the money to hire a lawyer.
If the US economy was tooled to have everyone have at least an “oh shit” cushion to stay at home for 8 weeks, I’d understand not giving a fuck about it further, but uhh… that’s one of the reasons why our response is going to be bad, dude. An individual response to a systemic issue will get you murked.
And before you say “I am a responsible adult, everyone else is not”, that’s a pointless response. It’s a systemic issue, viral plagues do not care about individual merit.
We should be guided by science not superstition. So i assume that we have understanding consideration for the following phonemes in these classic experiments.
Milgrim Experiment
The Standford Experiment
That we understand the fear is no reason for civil disorder. I would ask people to consider that fear puts one at disadvantage economically and makes one appear weak if the our actions are not in proportion to the threat at hand. I acknowledge not being afraid when the problem is real is as my family has said and as the scholarly people of the past have said… If everyone is jumping off the bridge would i then also join them for mere need to conform or for the reasons of being popular amongst my peers.
Further i realize that psychology has limitation and that it is best for ones own self diagnostics and ones own health. That medical diagnosis of psychology are poor at creating decent unbiased laws free from prejudice. Mostly because psychology revolves around stereotype that lead toward conjecture. Thus the Thud experiment shows this conjecture.
So i do see unemployment as also causing death.
I do not doubt people sanity. We are acting in confusing times. Rash thinking usually leads towards bad decisions.
I do not mind metalicas desire for pessimism and desire for critical thinking as a true form off revolution from propaganda and dogma. Yet i believe a more reserve form of decorum will properly sooth torture psyche of makerspace people. Perhaps in a better time under better circumstances we could have worked towards mutual benefit. Perhaps with better aims and ideals the brother hood of man could stand and prosper… but it seems less likely with hurt bodies and hurt feelings. We can not change weather our bodies are hurt, but i believe we can change our feeling and disposition to each other. That a respect for out fellow citizen my serve us better in the weeks to come.
Source? 
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Jswilson64 i believe there is no source for Mblatz statistics… it was concept of irony… it is probably a metaphor.
Is your browser set up to not show emojis?
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No he only sees meaning through music.
And why not? Gotta spin the records backwards to get the full message though.
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I thought we were trying to keep the serious cases down to save lives.
I see emotions as often a distraction… I have had extend family members smile but hide hate and confusions. I am often too literal. My father was protestant and my mother was catholic they where married by the quakers so the two family’s would not make issues. True to form my mother’s father ran a bar… My fathers father was the principle of my mother and fathers high school for a time. Yeah i have different all be unique perspective (as i am quite sure other people have here(Unique is nice word for freak)).
So Stoicism means something for me… Specific… ok…
Given all the emotions going on. Other than physics (or perhaps a deity… you pick). Other than the principles that describe reality, I decide my own fate. I will in some way reap the benefits of my own decisions in some way. Ok i have to be able to tell myself that… Therefore i am not going to be a jerk or not too much of a jerk because it does not serve me. If i enrage other people they don’t want to work with me. Thus i preclude myself as much as possible from anger and being snide because it does not serve me in the long run. If i where to loot as people do in the general populous as we look at the fear of the coronavirus, then i deserve to be branded and distrusted. The problem is we gossip and people who break the law but never have it come to light. So saying i am decide my own fate, helps me to be far less emotional and not consider looting, rather making. Our society is less effective at justice health and industry because of emotions and biased. I don’t believe being emotional and biased will serve us in the long run. I believe that making is the true answer to our shortages at this time. So controlling my own emotions seems to be the answer.
So we want this
and this
Staying apart and being together seem to be conflicting. I have a membership at Dallas makerspace i can not use it.
Talk is a DMS tool you seem to be getting quite a bit of use out of lately.
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As I see it, social distancing is a stop-gap measure to (hopefully) keep us from overloading our medical facilities so that the serious cases get the help they need. Actually, as I think about it, it also keeps folks who already got a mild case from infecting many others during this time.
Still, I see it as more delaying tactics than much prevention.
OTOH, we were listening to one of our top guys in the field on PBS the other day, and sometimes these corona viruses just vanish. The last big SARS virus vanished before they could develop a vaccine.