Jeep has always been a cluster phuck of multiple manufacturers - they should be called Heinz 57 instead!
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Yeah,
My F-250 4x4 quad cab with the 6.2L gas engine was only 42.7k stickerā¦ 32.7k out the door.
Itās awesome. Itās terrifying. It makes no sense whatsoever. Yet merely the staggering expense in the face of so many competing priorities is why I do not possess such an absurdity.
My original post was SUPPOSED to include that the F150 vs. Raptor payload IS lighter by ~500-1000 lbs, but towing capacity is the same (if I am reading this right).
The SSR is a āhalf ton uteā
And because I brought it up somewhere, the GMC Syclone (drool!) had a payload of 500lbs towing capacity of 1000. This means if you weigh 150, your girl weighs 110100 lbs, you will JUST BARELY be able to take the two of you and your luggage to the cruise terminal for that Caribbean jaunt you had planned, but it might do it faster and with more aplomb than a 1991 Ferrari 348ā¦
Raptors are trucks, trucks can be playthings, I donāt see the fuss.
The bailout was 10 years ago, can we stop talking about it?
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Chicken Tax was 55, canāt for(get/give) that!
But muh beef exports!
Wellā¦ Weāre still paying for bothā¦
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Donāt we pay for everything? Still paying for my gym membership I donāt use!
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But that costs me LESS if I choose to join your gym, whereas the bailout costs every tax paying citizen a greater percentage of their income, and the chicken tax makes my truck cost MORE, whatever the brand.
Itās your choice to either use membership or cancel it. If you canāt cancel it then use it getting the value you paid for.
No we arenāt paying for everything. Ford gutted it out the company/employees/suppliers made it work. When Chrysler got their 1st bailout they were required to sell off their military division that was profitable. The US also got a boat load of warrants that became profitable. What did GM do that was equivalent to either of those?
Except taxes didnāt go up afterward soā¦
Depends whom you ask, but no matter. Letās say they stayed fixed, but GM got $10,000,000,000. Do we think that money just fell from the sky? Nope. Itāll come out of our hides in the future, and/or in other programs which were robbed to pay for it, for which we and our children and their children will pay. I count both of those as ācosting usā, even if itās not in direct āincreasesā. Paying the same amount for longer still costs me more.
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Maybe 2 or 3 years ago there were a TON of 2010ish Raptors that hit the used market at once. DHS bought thousands of them for CBP and USBP, and they all got surplused out at the same time. If I remember right, it was a payload capacity issue, as the boxes that USBP puts in the back of their trucks weighed too much once there were people in them, so they ended up as a solution in search of a problem.
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My plan, as with all things, is to die before the bill comes due.
Man, I guess that makes me a republican.
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My son has a raptor, he loves it. The cab inside is as big as a New York apartment! Only gets like13 miles to the gallon on gas.
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Damn, I wish my old 13-MPG V-6 Explorer had been as fun as a Raptor.
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I couldnāt be happier with my 3.5L Ecoboost. Itās got more torque than the 5.0L option and can easily be reflashed for a little more torque, if you want.
Although, Iām a little said to learn itās not āa truckā since I canāt fit a 4x8ā piece of plywood in the bed. 
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I see the problem: Youāre mixing units of measure. Metric for the engine, English for the wood. Metric has smaller units, so if you were haul metric plywood it would probably fit.
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Mine was the Exploder
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