Things needed in Automotive

There are air drops on the first aid column to the right of the lift, roboreel on the left near the workshop and one more floor roboreel near the gantry mounted on the wall.

The first aid column needs an air reel to use.

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Good to know. I never knew about the one on the floor.

This post was really about informing @Kriskat30 what I thought the area needed since she asked after overhearing me talk to someone else about locating a tool. I really appreciate that she took the time and interest to offer support. This list is also with limitted exposure in using the automotive area, and I’m sure others have more pertinent info.

Chocks to keep the wheels on the bus from going round and round… round and round…
:slight_smile: Sorry had to do it.

I didn’t even think to check the boxes on the shelf. I was looking for a C-Clamp. That’s what happens when you get too specific in your thinking. I’m sure there is a Brake Caliper box still there. Still a couple of inexpesive C-Clamps would not be a bad thing.

Why not direct your thoughts and request to the Automotive Committee chairperson, Tom (@tlar). That would make a lot more sense as directors don’t have the type of control and authority over specif committees that the original post is implying.

Better yet, attend the next committee meeting and say hi…

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It seems like the Automotive category is a good way to communicate with the automotive team. Everyone is very responsive here.

Also I’m not sure Automotive has committee meetings.

Edit: Automotive meets weekly.

Tagging the chairperson is not a good idea, then?

Also: New Automotive Committee meeting evenings will be next Tuesday at 730pm

Why undermine the committee structure?

I’m sure there’s no malicious intent behind this thread. That thread is marked June as far as I can tell btw.

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Extra air line is in work - will be mounted on the lift, along with a work light on a reel.
32mm socket - I bought one the other night that was a 12 point in chrome for axle nuts.
There is an axle nut kit on the wire shelves
spark plug sockets are in the socket drawer - one of the drawers where no one seems to know how to put sockets and wrenches back where they belong.
C clamps can be found in the workshop near the other clamps that woodworking uses - it is about a 25 ft hike. (i don’t use c clamps when I do brakes)
air guns - upper right hand side on the top black tool box - they seem to walk - or get used in other parts of the space and never get put back,…
Hammer - go around the wall next the to cordless tools - hammers are right there.
I have a torx/driver set I need to drop off Monday or Tuesday.
There is a wood scrap bin in a pinch but I will pick up some more chocks.

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This is very true…

Ok. So… looks like I ruffled feathers. Sorry about that. I did say from the get go that this was just my observations and it is not to whine or complain or nag. Any assumptions of malintent/mutiny or Lanister-like conniving were misconstrued.

Please understand something. I was asked by Kris (in person after overhearing a conversation about how to return a tool I was lending someone) if there was anything that I thought that was needed in the automotive section. I promised I would follow up with her with a note of what I had problems finding. This is not a slam or hating or circumventing of anyone. It was a follow up on a commitment. If I knew of a way to send messages directly I would have, but I thought it more prudent to include others that are using that space.

Also, if I knew how to look up the chairperson, I would have copied them on this. That was not an ommision, just lack of knowledge. I could not find anything on the wiki that says who the chairs are, or how to contact them. I did look. I agree that this should go through committee like everything else, and since I’m not attending the meetings, then my opinion is basically worthless.

Having said that, it seems like the things that I brought up are already known, and the committee is already working on. Bonus!!


Stop reading here if you don’t care anymore, otherwise, a few responses to Tom and others whom I greatly appreciate taking care of so many things.

@mblatz we’ve met a few times, but there’s a ton of people, and I’m not there very often, but alway glad to meet again and say hi. I will attempt to make a committee meeting, but the space is about an hour away for me, and not as convenient to just drop in.

Tom. Love the idea of a drop light, and thanks for getting another hose reel. Did not know about the axel nut kit. Assumed the socket would be with the uhhh… sockets. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

I did walk the 25 ft to the clamp wall in woodshop :slight_smile: , and there were no C-Clamps there either, only wood clamps. These are meant for holding not compressing. Mathew (Part of Automotive?? Shaved head with a pony tail) had the only C-Clamp around and was working with it in Metal Shop. Super cool guy. He let me borrow it for 2 minutes to squeeze the calipers. I’m sure that there are better tools for this, and it is my fault for not knowing to look for them on the shelf. Again, I’ve always just done it one way.

I did not personally look for the spark plug sockets, but the person in the bay next to me was looking, and could not find them in the drawer. Does that mean they don’t exist, walked off, or he is blind? Don’t know. I gave him mine, that I brought with me. Just an observation.

Found the air ratchets. That was never a problem. I was talking about an air nozzle, for blowing air. There is a broken one in the drawer, but none others that I could find. Again, the person next to me needed one, and we could not find it. I suggested to use the one from woodshop for 5 minutes, and return it. It is permanently mounted to the wall for blowing out the CNC machine. He was berated for trying to take something out of woodshop. #otherissues

I did find the 2.5 lb hammers that are on the tool wall. A 5 or 10lb sledge would be better for knocking out some bolts though. The only hammer in our toolbox is a deadblow. Since blacksmithing was moved offsite all the big hammers are gone. I was beating the @#!@ out of a rusty strut bolt trying to get it to give up the ghost.

Lastly if I can help inventory/label tools, let me know. Perfectly willing to donate some time here. I love the organization that was done to the wrenches and sockets a few months ago. That was brilliant.

Keep calm
Wrench on

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Just a thought, but what about getting a set or two of ratchets and wrenches to put on the tool wall so people not in automotive stop using the “nice” stuff. Outside of automotive there are not any other places I’ve found to get basic hand tools like these, unless something has changed. It would lessen the amount of traffic around that toolbox.

Kinda like how we should not use the electronics’ voltmeters etc to do auto diagnosing. Which nobody ever does… :wink:

I like the idea of having just a surplus of wrenches but after seeing each committees messy drawer I’d really like to find a nice solution for organization. Any thoughts? Maybe a foamboard where a wrench only fits in one place?

The plastic wrench holders are the way to go, and if you hang them on the wall there is no drawer to throw them in. We have wrench holders in the autmotive drawers, but cough some people can’t seem to put them back and just throw them in.

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I’m asking because I honestly do not understand this, and would like to find a way to make the wiki and its treasure trove more accessible.

How did you look?

I am able to find most committees’ chairpersons (provided the info is up to date,and I know the name of the committee) in just a few seconds on the wiki. I assume this is because I know the drill with the wiki, and am unable to see how others are attempting to use it.

How to contact is…well…l sometimes challenging, but you would then at least be able to post that you know the name of the chairperson to whom you would direct this if you knew how to contact them…

There’s two in the drawer that are completely mangled. I tried sorting them into the holders the other day. Didn’t work. We are missing so many sizes

Totally fair. Going back to the main wiki page, I now see the committees link at the top.

Here is how I tried to do things, and where I went wrong.

After my conversation, I really wanted to find KrisKat’s user name so I could follow up on a commitment. She introduced herself as the president (I’m pretty sure) and so that is what I went looking for since I did not remember her name. Then started searching for keyword president on the wiki. Nothing. On talk there were comments about Trump, but no org chart. I then went through the meeting minutes expecting to have offices called out. I could not find her in the minutes either, at least by title.

I then went back to the wiki and went to the members link on the left side. This was an outdated reference, and did not have positions. I beleive that I did at one point click on the committees link looking for the officers, but did not find them their either. For me the important links should be in the left column. Looking at what is in the banner and the left column they mostly repeat but not all.

I then remembered that she was the fairy wings lady, and went to find her show and tell. Great, now I have a name. Not wanting to go through the process again, and “assuming” that the information was not there, I did not try again to find the committee chair, but rather posted the message in the automotive area.

So… yes the information is there. Had I started looking for a committee and not an officer, maybe I would have done better. Hope this helps.

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Regarding wrench organization, how do we feel about setting up some magnetic storage? I use a few of these in my personal garage:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0010Z9S52/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

They’re excellent for storing wrenches in order of size and type, and it’s very obvious at a glance if any are missing. Also, they’re not likely to get mangled like plastic wrench holders, and they can accommodate a much wider variety of wrenches than most plastic holders.

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No ruffling at all - I appreciate your feedback and effort.

There are “C” clamps that are traditional malleable iron C clamps in the facility somewhere - as other committees move their things around who knows where things end up. No biggie - I am sure I have a few in my workshop that I will donate.

The misc plastic boxes on the wire shelves house several tools that most don’t know about - that is an area I’d like some constructive input with in organising with a better use of the space.

Mathew is a good automotive guy, very helpful and always positive.

Air nozzles - have a labeled drawer - for tire gauges, blow guns etc. (or should be) on my list of things to replenish - (thanks)

Spark plug sockets? The “typical ones 13/16” (21mm) 6point and 5/8" (16mm) 6 point were the “standard” a few years ago - but now there are a few others needed that we don’t have,

I am working on a tool wall - to hand various hand tools with an outline for where they belong - for those that might put them back. Wrench trays are in the drawers - but few put the wrenches in them - so no point in buying more.

More later

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Cool beans. Thanks again.

On the subject of wrench trays I was just suggesting that they hang rather than a drawer where they can get thrown. I would work on a foam insert similar to the pliers drawer that only leaves room for some of these wrench trays. That might be an option.

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I prefer to hang them as well - I prefer the magnetic holders as well - the “easier” you make it to put it back where it belongs the better for the current crop of “people”

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