Man. Totally shattering my (continued de)illusion that this screen name hides a Grand National owner…
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In this case, your reply brings up more questions than it answers. What does the exact language say? (stipulations on running vs not, those being worked on… etc. Toss me a link.)
I am not contesting that it doesn’t say that “vehicles cannot be stored” BUT what does the lease say about “stored”? (What does stored mean in this context? Does it mean that “cannot be parked for over a set time” or “cannot be parked at all”? If it means a set time, What is the time frame?)
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Just reading thru all this info on automotive lifts, etc. I would suggest as a possible option and if it is legal/allowed, we should consider an additional outdoor lift. It could be used for longer jobs and no ramp to make un-powered cars difficult to push on/off. As to the weather, it is what it is, I have fixed many a car outdoors and all lifts I have had before were in unconditioned space. Shade or covering for it would be nice, but not absolutely required. Just brainstorming another possible option.
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Definitely not even remotely allowed per our lease.
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I can envision a plausible scenario where an outdoor lift might be allowed - a mobile lift that lives indoors when it’s not in use. Suspect that getting such a beast up and down the ramp would reacquire considerable effort.
some “lifts” are portableish…
Agree that would be nice to be able to do, especially for tall vehicles, problem is most lifts are bolted to the ground for stability and safety.
The mobile lift is a well-established product genre:
The variety I imagine we’d be interested in is either the pallet jack-esque flavor or the very low-profile scissor lift variety.
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If we are going to dream, I’d like to throw this out there.
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Leases are negotiable documents. The closer to renewal or expansion time, the more negotiable they are. (-;
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They are less negotiable when you have a split lease. Current lease has about 15 months to go, the other lease will be an add-on to current lease.
I don’t think this is a negotiable item as it fronts anther business(es). We’d better served providing expanded space to our members climate controlled work area that is near the tools. Next door has one advantage over the 104: ceiling clearance isn’t a problem.
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Erik,
I have a mid rise scissor at home made in the USA by Mohawk (sold by Snap On (and others)) - yes the pump unit is on wheels with a hook and the lift unit has rollers - but…the lift unit weighs about 600+? pounds so moving it up the ramp may prove interesting at best. It could be quietly left under a vehicle out of sight if one were to modify the hydraulic hose with aircraft style dripless quick couplers(mine was about $75 for the pair with a 25ft hose) - so that the pump unit may be disconnected and moved indoors to prevent theft and / or the overly curious.
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This is the the same model lift I have at home - this is not my photo though.
There are some that “believe” that all things are made the “same” and that some are just priced “higher” due to a name brand…
A vehicle lift is one of those pieces of equipment where quality and safety is paramount & I’m not willing to risk my life or the lives of others on lesser quality poorly made gear that is going to raise a vehicle a few to several feet in the air to save money.
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When I was a child in the 50s the dad of one of my friends was killed by a car falling off a lift
I think that is one reason I never could get under my car to do anything, I got far too nevouse
and this was with jack stands but my driveway is not flat
This.
I’ve seen stands and other automotive supports shattered made with cruddy cast iron processes.
As much as I hate the lift type we have, it’s well made and wouldn’t want myself under something with poor quality control.
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Everyone has a preference I am sure - even those that have never used a lift in a profession (but have watched a lot of on line videos)
My preference would be recessed scissor - simple yet very effective - for servicing every mechanical section of the vehicle, and extremely space saving & almost invisible when not in use. Plus no columns to avoid.
Plain Scissor is fine too, few if any holes to drill in the floor, barely takes up any room, all vehicles fully mechanically serviceable, no columns. (Note - the scissor I own at my home is NOT the same as what I would suggest for the Space-it is still the best $550 I spent on a piece of garage gear though.)
For a heavy duty post type lift - this one would be ideal with the double jointed arms (no idea on the cost of such a beast though)
http://www.nussbaum-usa.com/portfolio_item/hl-14000sst/
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I think for most members who use it, the auto life is an infrequently-utilized but high-impact resource. Meaning it’s very valuable even if infrequently used by a given member. As an example, a couple of years ago I was unable to use it because of a bay door issue. Instead, I was forced to rent a bay/lift and that cost me $300 - six months of dues.
I think the lift is incredibly valuable and arguing over 250 more square feet in what will be a 32000 square foot space is ridiculous. It’s 0.7% of the space.
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36,000 sf…
The arms are the big things I miss; the current lift is hard on pinch welds since the arms aren’t adjustable to hit the designated points that use a thicker steel, and instead many vehicles such as mine have to use a different point on the pinch that bends over time.