Committee Meeting April 2017

Didn’t Machine shop just throw one of these in the dumpster, due to the availability of the cold saw?

No (I’m assuming)
They threw away (I’m presuming, based on what you said) a wood miter saw (operating RPM close to 3k as oppsed to the 1.5k of a metal dry saw) that had a soft metal blade on it. (though I offered to take that off their hands)
It was great for cutting soft metals, but people were scared of it.
I assume the dry saw will be the same, but the abrasive chop saw is universally hated, too…
I mostly think it’s a pity we don’t have a nice tool like this in the place of the (grit spewing) chop saw. :frowning2:

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No doubt creating more vacuum would help by covering the un-used exposed portion of the cutting bed. I’ll need to test that out. Why wasn’t a complete covering exhaust hood placed over it? Was it a money issue? This poor operator usage would have been solved with an exhaust hood.

Yep, that was not a dry saw. It was being used improperly to cut metal. A dry saw with a nice blade is a joy to use. Until you have, you just don’t know!:grinning:

Would that be a CNC tubing bender? I wonder what you get for that much

I assume he’s referring to this

or this

from here

facepalm
The model I proposed with a hydraulic ram costs ~$800. (JD2 Model 32) ~$300 with a manual arm. Then the discussion was hijacked at the suggestion we get an $8000 Ironworker… THAT DOESNT EVEN BEND TUBE!
If it pleases the powers to be, I merely requested a means of getting tight radius bends (not possible with the roller) in a reasonable tube size.

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If you’re coming to the meeting, you’ll get to chat about it.
That is the point of this thread; so we can pre-talk about the things the meeting should cover.
Tim was trying to funny (though not off point: we ain’t buyin’ a multi-thousand dollar bender any time soon, I’d wager).
But you should probably propose that, and then counter with “I SUPPOSE this $800 JD2 MIIIIIGHT do it…it’s certainly more reasonably priced…”

Ya never know, but at this meeting, would be the time. :thumbsup:

(even if you’re not there, it was a good add to this thread, so it’s fresh on the people who WILL be there’s minds, so maybe one of THEM will champion it)

I have used the heck out of my abrasive saw and a little of the 'space’s saw. Works great for dang near anything, except soft metals. :slight_smile:

“Use the right tool for the job” - Mr. Scott

(edit: one notable use - hardened metals. Anything with teeth will fail on those. It’s either abrasive cut or plasma.)

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Most of the fumes from this go under the work being cut. So a down draft makes a lot of sense. A hood above would have to move a lot more air to do the same job.

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As a general item: Metal shop needs better ventilation. However, we can’t saw holes in the side of the building for a big ventilation fan. :frowning:

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Fair enough. Then let’s get a decent one of those, then, instead of that hazard fraught POS. Woudln’t mind having both, honestly.

LOLZ.
Hadn’t even noticed that.
But the $8.5k tubeshark DOES bend (and notch). Prob’ly not getting one. I’d like to see a group-build of the “Trike” one like Tim has. At least one of us has already been through that build, and seems like it’d be a good thing to get folks involved in a group build using a bunch of our tools, and we’d end up with a TUBE BENDER (hopefully). I’ve already proven my lack of ability on making that happen, though…

Ya think the landlord would OK a crank out wall?
Then we could just open it up, like an RV awning.
Put a hydraulic roll-out platform in, to double our working space when it’s good weather…
OK. Back to reality…

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Would either of these be correctly called a “chop saw”? (I’m learning here …)

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In my opinion, no. “Chop saw” almost universally refers to an abrasive saw.
Which having said, because these use a “chop motion” (as compared to, say, a band saw or radial arm saw, or circular saw) calling them a “chop saw” is probably not incorrect. I just think it makes you look like you didn’t care enough to find out what they’re really called. Which would probably earn me an ass kicking in the right (wrong?) evironment…

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Didn’t throw away, sold.lesser model of DeWalt. Problem is still need abrasive saw. First time a piece of rebar or hardened steel hits it the carbide blades they done.

Also Tim and I have been playing with English Wheel. First get 22ga. I got 20ga and 18ga… Mucho harder to work. Beader works great. Tim and I both agree need a 1" or 2" anvil (I vote 1"). Tim has price, $100 to $200. But will greatly improve ability to shape. Also a shot bag and some hammers.

Be great when Blacksmithing gets their stuff in new trailer so we can move into additional space.

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We probably can, but that doesn’t mean we should…

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8-10k what bender are you trying to get?

http://www.evolutionpowertools.com/us/steel/evosaw380.php

Check out the evolution saws discount steel has a good deal on them

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:thumbsup: :grin: